Death for Tsarnaev

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by Crockett, May 15, 2015.

  1. Crockett

    Crockett 5,000+ Posts

  2. Larry T Spider

    Larry T Spider 100+ Posts

    Adios mofo
     
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  3. WorsterMan

    WorsterMan SEC here we come!!

    That is what he deserves IMO. Now the appeals process will start. Even though there is no death penalty in Mass. I suspect this sentence will not be overturned. However, it may be years before he gets the lethal injection.
     
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  4. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Crock, you shouldn't be too shocked. Massachusetts is liberal, but liberals are far from unanimous on the issue. First, many liberals support the death penalty - probably a minority but a significant one. Second, many liberals who oppose the death penalty do so because they don't trust the system (especially in the South and with black defendants) to only convict the guilty, not because they think the guilty don't deserve death. Third, some conscientious liberals truly find the death penalty to be a per se injustice but respect the law enough to follow a jury charge.

    The point is that if you combine those groups with the few conservatives that do live in Massachusetts, it's probably not that hard to impanel a jury that would impose the death penalty in case in which guilt isn't in question.
     
  5. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Worster
    Wasn't this a federal case and the death sentence would be carried out in a federal prison like McVeigh's was?
     
  6. WorsterMan

    WorsterMan SEC here we come!!

    I believe you are correct, so a Federal conviction and death sentence for terrorism would trump Mass. law. He will be put to death in a humane way, unlike what he and his brother did to the victims of their cowardly terrorist act.
     
  7. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Plus he will get years of appeals and delay.
     
  8. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    Good riddance, but a better punishment would be life.
     
  9. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    A better punishment would be to put him in a room with a pressure cooker bomb set to go off at a random, undisclosed time. For a little while we could think of him as Schroedinger's terrorist.
     
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  10. chango

    chango 2,500+ Posts

    Topic aside - Schroedinger's terrorist is just funny.
     
  11. n64ra

    n64ra 1,000+ Posts

  12. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    That sounds like standard jury selection but I'm not a lawyer.
     
  13. NJlonghorn

    NJlonghorn 2,500+ Posts

    Not quite. In Witherspoon v. Illinois, 391 U.S. 510, 522, n.21 (1968), the US Supreme Court wrote that disqualification occurs only if the jurors make it "unmistakably clear” that (1) they would “automatically vote against the death penalty” no matter what, or (2) that “their attitude about the death penalty would prevent them from making an impartial decision”.

    The Court later clarified in Lockhart v. McCree, 476 U.S. 162, 176 (1986) that those who oppose the death penalty can sometimes still serve as jurors in a death case:

    This is why jury selection takes so long in capital questions. Every juror has to be put through a battery of questions to determine not only what his or her position is, but how firmly held the position is and whether the prospective juror would listen to the judge and apply the law.
     
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  14. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Good analysis, NJ. Like he says, the key factor isn't a general opposition to the death penalty but the ability to follow the law as set forth in the jury charge (which could be manifested in a particularly deeply held opposition to the death penalty). For example, if a juror was unwilling to follow the "beyond a reasonable doubt" standard in determining guilt or innocence, he'd be stricken from the panel as well.
     
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  15. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    Deez, That photo is just wrong. I will never be able to un-see that, you know. :whiteflag:
     
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  16. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    I figured it was time to dump the wheelchair and go with something else. Since HRC is the spare politician in need of some ridicule nowadays, I decided to do a little "research" and found a good one. Lol.
     
  17. Crockett

    Crockett 5,000+ Posts

    Sadly enough at first glance (hey I'm getting older) I thought "Wow, Hillary can (or at least could) look sexy." Closer evaluation ... not my type.
     
  18. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    For whatever reason, this makes me think of "Lola" by The Kinks.
     
  19. ProdigalHorn

    ProdigalHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Deez, thanks to your new sig, I now have to fast-scroll through your posts, so just know that if your comment is less than a couple of sentences long, I'm probably not going to be able to read it without seeing something I can't unsee.
     
  20. zork

    zork 2,500+ Posts

    yea sigs can be pretty obnoxious. first it was years of goodhair eating a corndog , now we get tranny hillary. it is cute or whatever for a once viewing then it really is distasteful. can we pick and choose which sigs we see without it affecting the text content?
     
  21. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    zork, don't sweat it. If it's in poor taste (and I can see why someone would think it was), then I'll get rid of it and come up with something else. I'll also try to get a smaller photo that's a little less conspicuous.
     
  22. zork

    zork 2,500+ Posts

    It's cool. I've been scrolling past your sigs for years. :)
     

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