Saban? Fitzgerald? Swinney? who?

Discussion in 'On The Field' started by joh, Oct 3, 2015.

  1. Txreds

    Txreds 250+ Posts

    I enjoyed your analysis and agree with most. I know you don't agree but I would still look at Dabo. He is young and has done well with Clemson. I think he would fit in here.
     
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  2. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    I'd rather have Gundy
     
  3. Txreds

    Txreds 250+ Posts

    At this point, I just want Charlie gone.
     
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  4. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Some of us didn't want him at all, but until that lawsuit is gone, he won't be unless he gets "outplaced", which means our alums have to buyout Golden's contract.

    He was South Carolina's first choice, but his stock is dropping like a rock.
     
  5. Txreds

    Txreds 250+ Posts

    The damage this guy is doing will set us back for years in recruiting.
     
  6. Joe Texas

    Joe Texas 25+ Posts

    I'm calling BS. If you have that kind of inside info, write a book. Mal Moore, Alabama's then AD, is documented as having gone to Miami with his wife to talk to Saban before the season had ended, thus the "I'm not going to be the football coach at Alabama". If your "friends" wrote a check, who are they and for how much.
     
  7. GV Longhorn

    GV Longhorn 100+ Posts

    Pat Narduzzi

    Let Strong go now, let Brown coach the remainder of the season, and go get Narduzzi to build the future.
     
  8. Ables

    Ables < 25 Posts

    Doesn't matter. Who would want to come here and join the sinking ship of the Big 12. As CS is finding out the hard way, this is a career killer as long as we are in a crappy conference like the Big 12 and cannot recruit the type of premiere players needed to compete on a NC level.
     
  9. majorwhiteapples

    majorwhiteapples 5,000+ Posts

    Dykes from Cal, Diantonio, or Harbaugh.

    How do you get Harbaugh, give him $100M upfront for 10 years(guaranteed) and $1Mill for life on top of bonuses. His comittment, he won't leave unless asked too.
     
  10. eastexhorn

    eastexhorn 250+ Posts

    I would throw out the coaching staff of Utah as a good choice.
     
  11. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Joe,

    Mal-fee-$ence Moore indeed went to Miami on Alabama's dime to help "cover a situation" that was never in his control. I believe he had a suite at The Harbor Beach Marriott. He could go along or go out the door. The money had spoken and it was done. Mal got to look like a genius and play out his retirement. He had no more roll in hiring Saban than Deloss did in hiring Mack Brown. His book is revisionist history to establish his "legacy". People in Alabama gave him that for staying the hell out of the way. They wanted their man. They wrote the checks. They negotiated the deal. Moore played the roll.

    For that matter, no book will ever accurately document the events leading up to MB's hiring. Deloss will be given the same courtesy.
     
  12. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    Sabre, Who was that idiot coach that DeLoss wanted back when DKR brought us Mack? He was a "hot" name of the day, and now I can't recall him to save my life.
     
  13. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Gary Barnett - great coach, but no school had as large a cesspool for an administration as Colorado. Little Bitsy Hoffman made Steve Patterson look like Deloss. She was the school President and CU will NEVER recover from her overwhelming stupidity. She fired Barnett without knowing the financial situation. Colorado was so poor that they couldn't afford $300,000 for a practice bubble, and she was saying, "write Barnett a $7 million check and send him packing". Her reaction when asked where she was getting the money was priceless.

    Even more priceless was that she didn't find out McCartney was announcing his resignation until he was walking into the press conference. Imagine her arrogance and stupidity in telling the founder of Promise Keepers that he need to "tone down his Jesus stuff". McCartney announced it in his post game press conference. She was seen running along side of him as he exited the playing field at Folsom begging him not to do it.
     
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  14. BevoJoe

    BevoJoe 10,000+ Posts

    Some good points above. I'll throw in an assumption that we finish 2-10 this year, so why bring Charlie back? Is it a wise decision to keep him another year to lower the buyout, while potentially watching further erosion of the fan base reducing season ticket sales and revenues? Even if Strong were to win 100% more games, that's only 4 and then there's the increasing embarrassing blowout losses. That's not good business, or from recruiting perspective, the effect on the ability to land top talent.

    Better to cut bait, pay out what's due, then get a top coach that has a history of winning conference, bowl games and NCs. And not as a position coach, but as the head coach. Waiting around and hoping for success in the future based on what we've seen so far is like feeding hay to a dead horse.
     
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  15. Brad Austin

    Brad Austin 2,500+ Posts

    Another year? Why? So the defense can be a little better and we get back to 6-7 or 7-6 with this horrible coaching staff?

    We our so thin at OL that when one guy is out the whole line is garbage. Are we gonna start a couple more Freshmen OL next year? How's that gonna make some leapfrog of progress on offense?

    And what OL recruits are interested that could succeed right away? Our OL recruiting looks horrendous now. Is Charlie gonna close in Feb and flip some big-time OL studs with a 4-8 record? The DL is just as bad now, and also without much recruiting sizzle.

    Sorry but after we go 4-8 it's time to cut bait and bring in a real coaching staff. Maybe a big name could flip some solid recruits, seeing as they should be running from Texas right now. No way I'd want to come to a program that wets the bed everytime a stout opponent shows up.
     
  16. Unques prist

    Unques prist 250+ Posts

    "Stoops - Would love the job but will never get an offer"

    I live up here in OKC and to make that statement is freaking laughable. Stoops hates Texas and gets paid a ton up here in OKC (much cheaper place to live and raise a family). He is smart enough to know he doesn't fit in Austin, has 2 bosses at OU - Castiglione and Boren and has so much less scrutiny and academic hurdles in Norman. Also doesn't have deal with all the mettlesome politics and self consumed big money donors at OU.
     
  17. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 10,000+ Posts

    ^^^^ also knows he can get any car (and a job) from Big Red!
     
  18. Hipsquare

    Hipsquare 100+ Posts

    agree that he does fit in Austin, but the rest of this is some of the dumbest **** ever posted.
     
  19. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Another name for the list of names

     
  20. IvanDiabloHorn

    IvanDiabloHorn 1,000+ Posts

    Larry Fedora. My choice last time, still my choice. Fedora would recruit very well in Texas and win big at Texas. If he brought his present DC with him, we would win immediately. Fedora would put a real offense on the field in his first year.
     
  21. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Unques,

    Are you saying that Stoops and Castiglione get along or are friends? Strange considering a couple of years back Bob went straight to Boren to get him replaced. Norman has not been a bed of roses for Stoops, and he has Barry & Becky living "on campus", and Barry gets far more attention than Bob. Do not misunderstand - Barry does not intervene with the team.

    Ivan,

    Larry will not get consideration, but the guy is one of the best coaches out there. I submit to you that he inherited a bigger mess in Chappel Hill than Butch Davis did in Convict Gables. Larry would do great in Austin, knows and has the respect of virtually every Texas HS coach. Seeing Gene come back wouldn't upset me.
     
  22. BevoJoe

    BevoJoe 10,000+ Posts

    While changes are required if we finish 3-9 or 2-10, my thought is Strong will be back next year and maybe longer until his contract runs out. Either option is unacceptable, but the "folks in charge", I fear, don't get it. After ND it should've been made clear that those type games can't happen again. If not, then it should definitely be made clear now. If Stoops & Co. hang 60-70 on us this week and we put up a measly 7-10 points, then the time to act should be immediate and a new search should begin Sunday.
     
  23. Brad Austin

    Brad Austin 2,500+ Posts

    His team is smack talking each other publicly today. 5-7 or less and Strong needs to go. They are embarrassing us on the field and now they're behavior off is doing the same. He's lost control (never had it really) and in over his head.
     
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  24. Broken Spoke

    Broken Spoke 100+ Posts

    What about Barry Switzer or Jimmy Johnson? Is Lou Holtz still alive? His grandson is a Longhorn. Maybe Mike Leach is ready to come out of the woods of east Washington St., probably get him for a song.
     
  25. Statalyzer

    Statalyzer 10,000+ Posts

    To be fair, the whole line was garbage before we had one guy go out too....
     
  26. UT Horn Fan

    UT Horn Fan 500+ Posts

    I don't think people should dismiss the Saban possibility this time around for two reasons:

    1) None of the parties involved two years ago (Powers, Patterson, Brown) are still around. If that were not the case, this would be a moot point.
    2). There is no permanent AD in place yet. Perrin will be here until August 2016 (next season). If hired in the off season, Saban could essentially hire his own boss. That is an appealing incentive that was not on the table last go 'round.

    Just sayin' ...
     
  27. VYFan

    VYFan 2,500+ Posts

    Only saying this because this thread seems to be a crazy wish list, not necessarily connected to reality, but if you are compiling a wish list of "A+" hires, Pete Carroll is as high up as the others listed, or Mike Tomlin (only 43 years old), or probably lots of others. Anyway, just saying its not like Urban Meyer and Nick Saban are the only tip top level people in the football world. Yes, of course, they are the most proven at the college level.
     
  28. old65horn

    old65horn 1,000+ Posts

    I have not seen Whittingham, Utah head coach, as a possible replacement. He is 55.
     
  29. UT Horn Fan

    UT Horn Fan 500+ Posts

    All this coach talk has got me thinking...

    All else being equal, if you had a magic wand and could have any coach, who would you choose?
     
  30. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    The below is getting some run. I wholeheartedly disagree with the writer's historical take on the state of the program.

    Although I concede at the outset that I would never be able to prove this, I believe that, with the right AD/HC combination, our football program could have had a dominant run over the last 20 years. We had a solid run as it was, and we were close, but IMO it did not really happen. It was a good run (highlighted by VY's brilliance), but it could have been a great run. One for the ages. If we had made better choices -- coaches, assistants, recruits, and an AD focused on championships over revenues.

    This person below thinks we are full of ourselves and that we should be counting our lucky stars -- happy with the one MNC we had. I will always believe we could have had 4 or 5. The college football world was there, waiting for us conquer it, but we squandered the moment. And we will never get that moment back.

    What do you good people think? I am alone on this?

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