North pole to melt this year?

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by hornpharmd, Jun 27, 2008.

  1. THEU

    THEU 2,500+ Posts

  2. pasotex

    pasotex 2,500+ Posts

  3. pasotex

    pasotex 2,500+ Posts

  4. zork

    zork 2,500+ Posts

    Why are we concerned about a centimeter of coastal water height here or there when it already was 40 meters higher before?

    I considered buying a beach house after the hurricane hit Galveston a several years ago. But realized the folly/risk in it before it was too late.
     
  5. pasotex

    pasotex 2,500+ Posts

  6. THEU

    THEU 2,500+ Posts

    I thought Arctic ice was thinning but Antarctic ice was getting thicker and covering more area. I thought that was reported just last month.
    Not only that but masses of ice are melting and yet seas are not rising as fast as predicted. And besides wasn't Obama's election to reverse all this. I simply can't keep up. Nor can I keep up with the cause and effect even of what is happening. Bush caused Katrina because he hated black people and we were going to see so many more hurricanes. When was the last time one hit?
    I still say we are awfully small and not as strong as we think we are. Thank you Rich Mullins.
     
  7. zork

    zork 2,500+ Posts

  8. pasotex

    pasotex 2,500+ Posts

    You need to keep up. There are several dynamics at work and the liars (I am looking at you mop) love to obfuscate over this.

    Both the Arctic and the Antarctic are losing ice mass (ie volume). The Arctic is just sea ice so it is easier to track. The Antarctic has a sea component and mostly land component. The Antarctic is gaining some sea ice in its winter. This completely melts in the summer and is about 50% less than the losses in the Arctic. The Antarctic land ice is losing volume.

    You should pay attention to the Arctic and the net for the world ice volume. They are both going down.
     
  9. zork

    zork 2,500+ Posts

  10. pasotex

    pasotex 2,500+ Posts

  11. pasotex

    pasotex 2,500+ Posts

  12. zork

    zork 2,500+ Posts

    edit: turns out the diagram on my link was wave height, so it isn't radiation as described, it was still weird seing the blob and then that pattern emerging in the other link.


    '' interesting, very interesting.

    Check this out:
    Open one browser with your link and focus on the diagram of "the blob" then open another browser and go to this link:

    http://www.collapsingintoconsciousn...r-days-of-eating-pacific-ocean-fish-are-over/

    Go to the video a bit down the screen and pause it about 20 to 26 seconds in.

    Now compare the blob with the German simulation of the Fukushima dispersal. Then read the , most certainly overdone and scare tactic, piece around the video talking about the continued leaks from the water cooling of the reactors.

    It is something to watch anyway is all I will say as I don't know nuthing /sargeant schultz.

    Lets hope none of this is related to the nuke **** in Japan.
     
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  13. pasotex

    pasotex 2,500+ Posts

  14. zork

    zork 2,500+ Posts

  15. zork

    zork 2,500+ Posts

  16. Vol Horn 4 Life

    Vol Horn 4 Life Good Bye To All The Rest!

  17. zork

    zork 2,500+ Posts

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    http://www.tempdatareview.org/

    raw data vs multiple different attempts to "normalize" the data. hmmmmm, science and statistics are very interesting:

    This might get interesting. Hopefully the scientists will be objective no matter who is paying their salaries or future grants, etc, etc.

    Another link with over 2000 comments:
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/...o-examine-fiddled-global-warming-figures.html
     
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  18. zork

    zork 2,500+ Posts

  19. pasotex

    pasotex 2,500+ Posts

  20. zork

    zork 2,500+ Posts

    The science is settled. I do however enjoy reading about the discussions of how the settled science evolves as we learn more about the Sun, CO2 on Venus, etc, etc. Embrace the climate changes because history has shown they will continue.
     
  21. zork

    zork 2,500+ Posts

    NOAA calling their Arctic shot:

    http://dailycaller.com/2015/05/06/noaa-says-the-arctic-will-be-ice-free-in-25-years/

     
  22. zork

    zork 2,500+ Posts

    More from NOAA on temperature history adjustments:

    http://dailycaller.com/2015/06/04/n...a-to-erase-the-15-year-global-warming-hiatus/

     
  23. zork

    zork 2,500+ Posts

  24. zork

    zork 2,500+ Posts

  25. zork

    zork 2,500+ Posts

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    Recent US trending temp data shown from NOAA above.(interesting regression line)
     
  26. zork

    zork 2,500+ Posts

  27. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    That would be everyone on earth
    + another billion or so who do not exist
    I see Al Gore back at work here somewhere

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  28. zork

    zork 2,500+ Posts

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    Given this graph I don't see any way there will be any significant changes in fuel consumption any time soon. Check out the alternative fuel percentages.

    Maybe all funds related to the climate change scare should relate to actual ways we can survive it or adapt to it or better yet how we can actually thrive with the coming changes if the "settled science" is to be believed.

    No more studies on whether it is happening or not. Only better tracking of what is happening with the weather/climate and how best to deal with it.

    If an island or coastline is going to be affected so what. Those were risky decisions akin to building in the river basin lowlands. There should be no compensation or spreading of the risks of anyone or any structure built near or in those areas.

    Private insurance is available, in some cases, for these places.

    Look at the diagram again. Tell me the energy usage is going to change significantly.
     
  29. OrngNugz

    OrngNugz 500+ Posts

    Its ok, we can all pray and nothing bad will happen
     
  30. UTChE96

    UTChE96 2,500+ Posts

    So I have not found anyone reporting that the North Pole has melted? Is it fair to say that the North Pole in fact will not melt by summer of 2008?
     

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