The Best Hope For Democracy in Middle East: Iran?

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by Fightin' Horn II, Jun 14, 2009.

  1. Fightin' Horn II

    Fightin' Horn II 500+ Posts

    I must say I am very heartened by the images coming out of Tehran. It apears there is a real, grassroots uprising going on. Dependent on how hard the government cracks down, it amy be very difficult to put this genie back in the bottle. The link below is to pictures from the Huffington Post. Note the ages of the protestors, and some of the clothes they are wearing. These people appear very much to want to be a part of the world.

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  2. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    They lack any real way to fight back, no weapons.
    Gov't thugs with guns will win that battle.
    But it is a start.
    Should the world intervene?
    Maybe the UN?
     
  3. TahoeHorn

    TahoeHorn 1,000+ Posts

    Democracy will happen everywhere in time. Some places may be a hundred years away but it's inevitable. Of countries with very backward governments, Iran has one of the most sophisticated populations. So they are a good candidate to get the next "promotion".
     
  4. gecko

    gecko 2,500+ Posts

    This might (emphasis on "might") go the way of the pro-democracy movements in eastern Europe of the late 80's. We can only hope. These things can take on a life of their own when the genie gets out of the bottle. Of course, not always....see Tienanmen Square.

    I think our best course of action right now is....

    1. Say nothing (or very little). I disagree with those who have been taking jabs at the US' lack of a response.
    2. Keep an eye out for the hard liners to create a provocation with us (skirmish in the northern gulf, etc) in order change the internal debate.

    I would like to see the nature of our relationship change with them....I'd love to travel there sometime.
     
  5. Hornius Emeritus

    Hornius Emeritus 2,500+ Posts


     
  6. Uninformed

    Uninformed 5,000+ Posts

    I agree that we should stay out of it. Anything we say, I think will be counter productive. I wasn't too fond of Hillary Clinton's comments, though. She said something like I hopes the election result reflects the genuine will and desire of the Iranian people. I would have wanted something a little more direct like, the election needs to reflect the will and desire of the Iraqi people. She seemed to insinuate that everything was on the up and up whereas I feel she needed to insinuate that it doesn't appear as if the election was on the up and up. Just a little too passive for my taste. Of course, the previous administration would have probably gone too far in the opposite direction, which I said previously would be counter-productive.
     
  7. majorwhiteapples

    majorwhiteapples 5,000+ Posts

    It's Bushes fault. Blame him and the past 8 years.
     
  8. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Peace is possible

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  9. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    OK, call me dumb, but I don't get this.
     
  10. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    I think the message is if age old enemies ( cats and dogs) can peacefully share a bed then peace is possible everywhere.
     

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