General Presidential Campaign: Trump vs Hillary

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by mchammer, Jun 20, 2016.

  1. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    More video fun with CNN

     
  2. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Have to hope she got this one correct


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  3. mchammer

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  4. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy


    Better at foreign policy? HRC has been an abysmal failure at foreign policy. I hope she tries to run on the Obama doctrine for foreign affairs. We are no longer respected in the world and she initiated the Iran deal which will lead to a nuclear crisis in the future. Yes, trump will often make an *** of himself, but I promise dictators across the world will not test him. Additionally, while I think Trump is naïve about trade, I do think he will secure better deals as it is one of his few strengths. NATO does need reform and it will not come until someone challenges them. I think he has no plan to leave NATO or not defend a NATO member. However, he will require nations to fairly participate.

    As HRC is proposing a Bernie like approach to healthcare and college tuition, I cannot see her being better. The debt has exploded over that last 12 years. If HRC wins, I think you also see the Dems taking back the House. HRC with a Dem house and a spineless Senate lead by McConnell is a recipe for continued disaster.

    Appreciate your perspective – I do think you are a bit tainted by you extreme dislike for Trump and your support of a failed Kasich campaign. I would rather have someone else as well, but it is a binary choice between a crook and a pompous ***.
     
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  5. Joe Fan

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    Democrats get away with so much crap

     
  6. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    I'm not saying HRC has been anything other than a dumpster fire at foreign policy. I'm just saying it's possible to be worse, and if Trump conducts himself as he suggests, he will be worse. Will he just negotiate a better deal with NATO countries rather than undermine the alliance? I desperately hope so, but he's playing with fire. I want to be wrong on this.

    The Dems will not take back the House, and the GOP will not go along with Bernie-style healthcare or college tuition or anything like that. They'd be far more likely to do that sort of thing with Trump (like they did with Bush).
     
  7. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Auto-patriotic art?

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  8. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Is Hillary having a petite mal seizure here?

     
  9. Joe Fan

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  10. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Looks like the post-convention bumps for Trump coming from --
    Senior citizens
    Women
    Middle Class
    Hispanics
    The educated


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  11. Joe Fan

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  12. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    No ****, Sherlock!
     
  13. texas_ex2000

    texas_ex2000 2,500+ Posts

    Ha...do you remember a little over a year ago how all the SNL writers and comedians were absolutely giddy at the potential for Trump running for President?
     
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  14. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    DNC's Scott Comer has binders full of gays


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  15. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    The current communications between the DNC and the media on the proper way to suppress these leaks needs to be leaked. Now.
     
  16. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Donor shaming
    Just another day at the office for the Clintons



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  17. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Since this is DWS and the DNC doing all this unbelievable chit albeit to get HRC nominated surely this will be seen as a negative even by some Dem voters?
    Are there any Dems on here who will be upset?
    Or as it has been pointed out winning is the only thing that matters?
     
  18. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Instant Classic


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  19. humahuma

    humahuma 1,000+ Posts

    Yep unbelievable.
     
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  20. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Most entertaining election of my lifetime



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  21. Joe Fan

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  22. Joe Fan

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  23. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    I can't believe we have nearly 4 more months of this and how much worse it will get.:whiteflag:
     
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  24. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Wait till the debates!!! 3 of them. Going to be epic
     
  25. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    They will be fun to watch. I may even stay up late to watch them live. I wonder what Clinton will say that will enable Trump to bring up the size of his junk.
     
  26. HornHuskerDad

    HornHuskerDad 5,000+ Posts

    :bow:
     
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  27. Joe Fan

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    "..... Donald Trump comes out of his convention ahead of Hillary Clinton in the race for the White House, topping her 44% to 39% in a four-way matchup including Gary Johnson (9%) and Jill Stein (3%) and by three points in a two-way head-to-head, 48% to 45%. That latter finding represents a 6-point convention bounce for Trump, which are traditionally measured in two-way matchups."
    http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/25/politics/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-poll/index.html



    Some recent history on post-convention bumps --
    in 2008 McCain had a small one
    In 2004 Romney lost 1% (bascially Romney & Obama were tied in the low 40s, then BHO slowly gained steady ground)
    In 2000, Gore gained 10% on Bush
     
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  30. Joe Fan

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    Must be tough for Nate to push enter on these


     

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