I feel like I need a GOP grocery store...

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by BrntOrngStmpeDe, Feb 15, 2017.

  1. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    I'm not too big on emojis, so I just opened this beer in your honor instead.

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  2. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    Fair enough!
     
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  3. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    There are perks to living in Deutschland. There are downsides, but there are definite perks.
     
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  4. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    I know for a fact that Nordstrom can. I have 2 former coworkers in their Business Intelligence team. In fact, most retail organizations have this information readily available in their customer analytics applications.
     
  5. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    Oh so they poll every single liberal and conservative? Didn't think so. The question asked earlier was whether someone thinks that store appeals more to one side than the other. They set up shop in heavily liberal populated areas. That does not answer the question. All it does it shows they are more interested in selling in highly liberal populated areas. So how do your 2 former coworkers propose to know what appeals to all liberals and all conservatives. They can't.
     
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  6. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    In the same way that politicians can reliably predict who you will vote for based on publicly available information, companies profile their customers in the same way. For example, Nordstrom has the address (home location...HUGE), credit history and other demographic data for the majority of their customers. They get this by those customers using a credit card, hopefully the Nordstrom card. That address information is HUGE because it turns out that we really aren't that much different than our neighbors. We all tend to cluster in areas with people like us. Same socio-economic class, similar ethnicities, and even similar jobs. Yes, there are outliers in every community but you'd be shocked when looking at the macro data how similar we all are.

    Now they can tie specific purchase patterns to demographic data with your credit card usage. They'd rather you use their credit card to get more specificity but can tie back to the data they get from your credit card company that is selling your information.

    You see, they don't actually have to poll anyone. In evolved customer analytics organizations the volume of data if frightening. I'll also point out that they don't randomly choose to build a store in a liberal populated area. There is a lot of data that goes into decision on where to build a store. This is the difference between successful retailers and not so successful retailers these days.
     
  7. Run Pincher

    Run Pincher 2,500+ Posts

    What is this store called Nordstoms? I've never heard of it. I do however shop at stores called Nordstrom and Nordstrom Rack.
     
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  8. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Thank you for the spelling correction.
     
  9. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 2,500+ Posts

    Now that is funny!
     
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  10. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    IA
    Uh I think Husker was being serious.I laughed too
     
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  11. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    It should come as no surprise that I would misspell Nordstrom, being a conservative, album rock listening, confederate flag waving, Make America Great T-shirt wearing heathen and all.
     
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  12. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    I thought I may have misspelled it as a latte drinkin', rap listening, rainbow flag waving, Che Guevera T-shirt waving tree hugger.

    Well...the latte drinking is correct. Micro-brews are mighty tasty too.
     
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  13. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    So Jewish Magazine shouldn't ask the POTUS how he's dealing with a purported surge in anti-semitism in the US? Maybe the "snowflake" label is misdirected. Rather than using the finger to aim it the thumb may be more appropriate.
     
  14. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 2,500+ Posts

    How do you keep doing this?
     
  15. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 2,500+ Posts

    Either it's "smoke crack Thursday in the IT department" or your non-sequitur-ism-ness-less-ness has started to jump from one thread to another.
     
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  16. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Sorry, wrong thread. Two different tabs of Hornfans open. Too much multi-tasking..and crack.
     
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  17. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    People in American need to know that they live in what is unquestionably a full blown beer renaissance. In the history of civilization, there has never been a better time or better place in which to be a beer drinker, and it's not a close call.
     
  18. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    Not if the left finds out what kind of beer Trump likes. Boycott city that would make the Aggies' boycotts look like child play.
     
  19. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Only if he drinks a macro-brew. Then they'd make fun of him. Of course, he doesn't drink at all which likely has some on the left confused. They'd rather he be a drinker of Milwaukee's Best or some other heinous beer to mock him for it. Not many on the left, outside of poor college students, are drinking that.
     
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  20. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    I'm fully aware of the Beer and Wine renaissance in the US. I'm full-tilt into the micro-brews (partial to IPA's, and American Hefewiezens) and red wine. It's a glorious time to see every local pub becoming their very own micro-brewery. Every year, for Fathers Day we hit a local beer festival. Nothing like the opportunity to sample hundreds of beers (of course I only get to a few dozen) in one place.

    My current favorite is a local brewery that was purchased by Annheiser Busch a year back. Elysian brewery makes a very good IPA called Spacedust. I noticed that Costco carried it here in Seattle this past week. That may mean they lose the "micro brew" label I guess. Washington and Oregon have tremendous micro brews.
     
  21. Run Pincher

    Run Pincher 2,500+ Posts

    Although there are certainly advantages to living in Germany such as the scenery and people actually know how to drive, I've never thought beer to be one of them. I've generally been able to get the German beers I like in the US, even on tap. Except maybe for Erdinger. I've also found some of the TX microbrews such as Live Oak and Karbach to be just as good.
     
  22. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Mr D
    Do you return the bottles for a deposit or Refills?
    I admit I am used to low rent cans.
     
  23. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Yes, I do return the bottles. See photo below. It's my beer stash in the utility room adjacent to my garage. A few reasons why I return bottles. First, most beers here aren't sold in cans, so if I limited myself to cans, I'd miss out on the best beers. Second, the deposit on cans is actually higher than it is on bottles. A can has a .25 deposit. A bottle usually has a .08 deposit. I think flip top bottles are .15. Third, it's a hassle to throw away bottles, because you can't throw glass in the garbage. You have to take glass to a glass recylcing drop, and you have to sort it by color. Finally, it's pretty easy to return the bottles. All I have to do is put the crates in the car and bring them to the store where I'm buying my beer. An employee adds them up, gives me a receipt, and then I hand it to the cashier when I check out, and he or she deducts it from my total.

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  24. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    You can get German beers in the US, but the variety is limited. You can get a basic German lager, a Pils, a wheat beer, and maybe a bock without any trouble. However, you're going to be mostly limited to the big Munich breweries and the varieties they choose to export.

    If you're actually here, you obviously get a lot more brands but also a lot more varieties. For example, I can get what they call a "helles bock" over here. It's a light-colored bock beer - very interesting flavor. I can get "weizenbock" (wheat bock beer). I can also get "kellerbier," which is beer made and stored in a celler - very different from a normal beer. I can get true Oktoberfest beer, which is quite different from what's sold in the US. The stuff sold in the US is usually an Oktoberfest Maerzen, which is much darker. (A notable exception - Hofbrau Oktoberfest, which is a true Oktoberfest and exported to the US.) I can get a "rauchbier" (a smoked beer). I can get unfiltered lagers. And of course, all of these are much cheaper than they are in the US. Also, keep in mind that by being in the EU, I can get beers from other EU countries pretty readily. That unlocks the English ales and porters and of course, the greatness of all the Belgian abbey ales. We've got it pretty good. lol

    Having said all that, you are absolutely right about the microbrews. Their quality will stand up against the best European breweries, and fortunately, younger Germans do have respect for American microbrews and even import some of them. I go to a colossal beer store near Darmstadt that has a big selection of American microbrews. They're on the pricey side, but I buy them from time to time.
     
  25. ProdigalHorn

    ProdigalHorn 10,000+ Posts

    One of them isn't Whataburger? What is wrong with you...

    I will have to try Cabo Bob when I'm back next. I've never heard of it, maybe my sister has (she still lives in South Austin.)
     
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  26. Crockett

    Crockett 5,000+ Posts

    Working class and Nordstrom don't go together. Only the most fashion conscious would work 4-8 hours to buy a necktie or a weeks take home pay for a wool suit. Nordstrom is for the affluent.
     
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    Last edited: Feb 17, 2017
  27. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    I don't rave over Whataburger, because I can make a burger that matches our exceeds theirs.

    As for Cabo Bob's, it's like Chipotle but better. You have multiple options for tortillas, which are made fresh as you order. They also offer a tasty brown rice and three different kinds of beans. The shredded meats are comparable, but CB's steak and chicken are better. Finally, they have a chipotle crema that is an orgiastic feast of the senses.
     
  28. ProdigalHorn

    ProdigalHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Nice. I've never been a huge chipotle fan - I like their carnitas but their chicken and steak is pretty mediocre to me. I used to live on Freebirds when I lived in College Station and hung out with friends there, but never felt like the Austin version was quite as good.

    Baja Fresh was a revelation when I moved out to Vegas - not sure if they have them in Austin but they're all over the west coast. I was very sad when the only one in North Jersey that I know of shut down.
     
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  29. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    I agree about Chipotle's steak and chicken - nothing special. CB's chicken is white meat (which I prefer), and it has a little more flavor. Their steak is at little more tender and less gristle. Nevertheless, I still tend to prefer the shredded meat there, especially the pork.

    Baja Fresh is very good. I've been to a few of them in California, and it seems like they used to have some in Austin. In fact, I think I even went to one on Mopac several years ago, but I seem to recall it closing.
     
  30. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Mr D,
    We are in awe. The organization of the empty beer bottles is a thing of beauty.
    Puts my puny stash of cans waiting for recycling on Fridays to shame.
     

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