Cowboys Elliott suspended 6 games

Just wow. He wasn't convictable in the courts, but the NFL is convinced he abused his girlfriend. I guess we all have to learn that no matter how mouthy the woman gets, you can't beat her up. (I grew up in a household where hitting a woman was unthinkable...even harsh words were met with astonishment ... so I can't figure out why anybody would ever do that.)

The Cowboys can't replace Elliott's explosiveness. But they do have the much underappreciated Alfred Morris on the roster, who runs hard and runs effectively every time he's given a chance. I hope the Boys don't outsmart themselves and keep a raw rookie instead of a proven veteran.

 

The Star-Telegram had this: Per the collective bargaining agreement, a player may be disciplined even if not charged or convicted “if the credible evidence establishes that you engaged in conduct prohibited by this personal conduct policy.” Prohibited conduct includes “actual or threatened physical violence against another person.”

I'm thinking there isn't much that can be changed, he'll appeal but he'll serve a couple of games at a minimum.

 

I'm pretty sure that I could be fair adjudicating an investigation into aTm or OU. But it would be easier for me to fair adjudicating actions against players at Slippery Rock or William & Mary.

http://dal.247sports.com/Bolt/NFL-i...Giants-hurting-Ezekiel-Elliott-case-105664999

 

The NFL says they have super-secret evidence, which is apparently worth more suspensions then they gave other people who flat-out admitted that they did it.

 

The leauge is going to screwed when the current cba is over the players are going to stick to them so bad

 

I don't know. The players agreed to the current wording after similar dust-ups before the last renewal.

While the official declaration is this is only due to the issue with the lying girlfriend, I suspect the league isn't happy with his immaturity and wanted to send a strong message. This is the first strike against him and will follow him throughout his NFL career. So the next time will be strike two which I believe is 10-14 games; with the third strike being banned from the league. He has got to learn he isn't in Columbus any longer.

 

If he did what they say he did he should get the 6 games and then some but too many inconsistencies for me to like the ruling I think back to what happen to our guys sanders and meander life was almost ruined for them over untrue statements and I get it's a touchy situation look what happen at Baylor but when you have legitimate shadow of a doubt that goes against those claims you have to be careful because it's about people's lives

 

He also lifted up a woman's shirt on video without her permission. Albeit it was mardi gras and beads were flying, but women lift their shirts. men don't get to do it without permission...on video.

I think 6 is too many, but I think there's enough bad judgement and behavior to want to send him a message.

I like the guy, and hope he matures. if he's not respecting women, it's unacceptable, and must deal with it.

 

Considering there are texts where the woman threatened to blackmail Elliott I think he has a good chance to win on appeal. I know the league said they knew this, but I don't think she could win even a civil suite. No wonder the DA punted on this one. She would have been eaten alive by a good attorney.

 

I read a columnist who said that the Elliott camp proved some of the woman's allegations were lies, but didn't meet the burden of proof on others. Not like criminal court ... the prosecution star witness is a known liar ... there is reasonable doubt that she's ever telling the truth.

 

That's what many thought the suspension would stem from him pulling the girls top down but when they stated a pattern of physical violence as the cause that was what caused the backlash

 

1) a beaten woman is easily likely to threaten to blackmail the guy. it's a way to manage his control tendencies.
2) a pattern of not respecting women's personal space (girlfriend and mardi gras) is an issue. i dont have an opinion on whether he abused his girlfriend, but obviously it was VERY messed up.

 

But there appears to be no physical evidence to link him to her bruises besides he was around her during that time. What if he never beat her? What if she staged the whole thing to get money? She threatened to do just that. Het story was not consistent with the police. I'm not at all defending him. I'm not a cowboy fan and don't have any ties to him either. Frankly I don't care too much, but it seems to me you're assumed guilty unless you can prove your innocent with the NFL. That part is just not right. You are talking about someone livelihood and it seems to me there has to be some evidence whether an independent witness or physical evidence that can be directly tied to him. Course we don't have all the evidence in front of us so it's all conjecture.

 

My only interest in this is the level of buffoonery the NFL once again demonstrates and why my motivation to be part of the NFL's audience has slowly waned and then was vaporized almost all of last year with the disrespect these people demonstrated ... in their uniform/with their teams.

I stopped watching NFL games/programming after week 2 of preseason last year and no appropriate response from the league. Jerrah and a couple other owners made their statements and a couple even took their own action with their own teams which brought me back for the playoffs.

Goodell couldn't prevent a player's first infraction, but he could have (SHOULD HAVE) put the quietus on that nonsense as it related to the NFL.

Sad that this has been raised again. I shall retain those hours formerly spent attending a game/watching on TV in other pursuits.

Adios NFL ... as Glanville once said "Not For Long" ... indeed.

NCAA/ADs would do well to learn from Goodells mistakes. No excuse for bad behavior.

 

The D Magazine story sure doesn't put him in a good light. Even as the author said, Tiffany Thompson could be a lying, petty, jealous, jilted ex, but that doesn't mean he didn't hit her. Or hold her against her will. Or hide her keys/phone in an attempt to keep her from leaving. Etc. I think there's way too much smoke for there not to be a fire.

Her affidavit is either the work of an evil genius, hell-bent on destroying Elliott, or a bitter ex-girlfriend who had a decent grasp on what was going on inside his head. Based on her texts with her friends, she sure doesn't seem like the evil genius type.

 

Courts dont like attempts to seek redress outside a CBA
When they agree to hear them, it only encourages more plaintiffs (and they already have enough of those).

 

Six games is too much. That's a lot of money. I don't really know the situation though. Did she go to the hospital?... and today's day and time a woman can really antagonize a man and she knows there won't be a price to pay.

 

Placing the blame on Tiffany Thompson is sorry. I'm the first to admit she's an airhead and on the crazy spectrum, but that doesn't excuse anything Elliott did. Read the affidavit. This is a guy who pinned her down (and who knows what other women) to tell her how much he loved her and wanted to change for her. That's exactly what the bad guy in a Lifetime movie does. This is on top of his getting other people to piss for him on drug test days, getting in bar fights, etc. But since 6 games is "a lot of money," that doesn't mean anyone should point fingers at him.

 

This is getting to be about testosterone, ego, money, players rights and reputation. I think it's time for Elliott to forgo exoneration and go for redemption.

 

Conflict of interest maybe?

 

If you assume he did everything he's alleged to do.

 

His own texts have him finding others to piss for him on drug test days. There are videos of him getting in the bar fight and showing a woman's breast on St. Patrick's Day. Why shouldn't the affidavit be seen as reliable? Because dudes all stand behind the guy with full knowledge of the "crazy" ones that they've dated?

This isn't a court of law, it's a CBA that the players agreed to. And I say this as a Cowboys fan. I think 6 games seems pretty easy considering Brady got 4 for making sure the ball felt right in his hand.

 

FML and my fantasy team. Was sitting at 6-2.

 

I'm sure not taking that affidavit as gospel truth. Assuming bad things happen between two bad people, you can't just take what one of them said as completely honest.
That being said, I agree with opinions that Zeke is messed up, showing that he acts disrespectfully related to women's boundaries. Whether he did something or everything she accused him of, is hard to say. At least some.

 

Just put Elliot back in my starting lineup...for at least one more week.

 

This is such a cluster, the league should have just came out and said hey we are suspending you for pulling the girls top down in public take 6 six games he will appeal of course move it down to 2 case closed he can’t fight or deny that it’s on tape all this other stuff it’s just crazy. One day he sits next day he plays geez

 

Since the argument is all about the arbitration, eventually the NFL will be forced to grant another arbitration hearing (at which all NFL executives will fall asleep). The result will not change, and Zeke will serve the 6 games. The players agreed to this type of arbitration so they have no one to blame but themselves.

 

During a very civil debate with Stephan A. Smith (who argued that Zeke should accept the suspension and end all of this), Max Kellerman said that the league's standard under the CBA is basically this: If it is more likely than not that he did it then that's good enough to suspend him; even if it's 51% to 49% in favor of more likely than not. That's good enough. And because it's a domestic violence issue they will treat it very seriously.

 

The owners and the players hammered out the agreement. They apparently did not set a standard of a conviction for punitive action by the league. Once you go below that bar then it's a judgment call and everybody agreed that the Comissioner's judgement would be canon.