Black Lives Matter; The Cerebral Warlords of Our Time

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  1. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Now even REM are racists

     
  2. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  3. I35

    I35 5,000+ Posts

    What makes these people that post white hate any different from the black hate by the KKK?
     
  4. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    From your fingertips to God's ear
     
  5. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    BLM now saying Justin Trudeau is a white supremacist

    “When Justin Trudeau responded to the Muslim ban that this coward, this white supremacist coward, Donald Trump, put forward, what did Justin Trudeau say? ..... He said he wanted to accept everyone who is not allowed into the US border to Canada. Don’t cheer! Do not cheer, because we know what exactly that is. We know what that manipulation is, it is what this country is founded on.”

    “When Justin Trudeau says that, he is a liar, he is a hypocrite, he is a white supremacist terrorist. That is what he is. Do not be fooled by this Liberal ********.”
    Yusra Khogali, the co-founder of Canada’s Black Lives Matter
     
  6. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Give me a break. 30,000 people die every year in auto accidents in the US. People get raped and assualted every day. One good plane crash kills more people than white officers killing blacks (whatever the situation). Compared to these, black deaths were getting an appropriate amount of coverage before BLM.
     
  7. ProdigalHorn

    ProdigalHorn 10,000+ Posts

    OK...

    First, as I said, I'm not saying I fully agree with the argument. But putting that aside, and considering that I'm a conservative and have no respect at all for the elements that organized those protests, I just would ask you to read what you just read aloud, and then ask yourself what the appropriate response would be from someone who believes that there are instances where minorities are being harassed or shot by the police without due cause. Are you really going to go to a rape victim and say "look, this happens to people every day, it's not that big a deal?"

    The reason why this argument won't work with actual people is that you're now comparing tragic accidents to (theoretically) deliberate acts by people entrusted with public safety. For right or wrong, the fact that you can hear someone complain about this and say "meh... stuff happens" is the reason why BLM got as much traction as it did.

    My point wasn't that the the claims of epidemic police violence are true or untrue. The point was simply that you can't assume that the average protester knows about or cares about the radical loonies that are typically running the show. That's certainly not a good thing, but it's reality. So when you say "All Lives Matter" in response to "Black Lives Matter," all they hear is something like "My mom is dying of cancer..." " Yeah well what about heart disease? That's important too!" They don't get that you're talking about the BLM leaders who put things like "Herstory" and "Wymen" on their website and rail about reparations.
     
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  8. mchammer

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    So, BLM is important cause the government is involved (city cops) in a way that is not the case for auto accidents, disease, and the like? If so, why are these people treated differently in the media than the Branch Davidians, crazy western landowners and the like?
     
  9. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Because the media is sympathetic to political agendas that are served by legitimizing BLM and the mythologies that their claims assume. However, that doesn't change or undermine PH's point.
     
  10. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Okay, I re-read PH posts again. Point made, but it is hard to care when whitey is blamed for everything and the inner city vote goes 95+% Dem. By the way, Trump did go after this vote (or at least caused people to stay home). He was successful via lower black vote turnout in Philly, Detroit, Cleveland, etc.
     
  11. BrntOrngStmpeDe

    BrntOrngStmpeDe 1,000+ Posts

    The black community is treated differently, but IMO it's not because the cops are racist but rather that the black community has a higher concentration of poverty, crime, and anger expressed towards cops. As humans our biology has taught us, for survival sakes, to regard higher threat areas as higher threat areas. It is instinctual that cops have a higher awareness and quicker fight/flight response in those areas.

    It's a chicken and egg argument. Cops sign up to do the right thing but when confronted by anger and disrespect, it is hard, no matter how much "training" they receive, to keep their attitude and response in check. Likewise, it is hard as a black person to see the inequality all around you and give the "system" (and the cops are the most visible component of said "system") the benefit of the doubt. Black communities start from a position of distrust of cops and move towards respect, where as most white communities grant the cops respect and move to a position of distrust only when things go awry.

    BLM like most movements is lead by the most vocal rather than the most reasoned, practical or analytical. Being the most vocal typically goes hand in hand with being the most vitriolic and provocative.

    Being treated poorly (or even differently) by cops is going to cause anger. The analogy I would use is this...

    If I go outside and see my tire is flat, I'm going to have a much different emotional response to seeing a nail that I ran over embedded in my tire versus seeing a slash where someone has intentionally destroyed my tire.

    Either way, I have a flat tire, but in one instance I'll say 'dang, that sucks' and in the other I will say 'who's the mother*** that just slashed my tire'. If I had my tire slashed, I'd spend all day fuming over it. I'd think about revenge if I ever found out who did it. I'd sure as heck tell my neighbors and friends that there's some P.O.S. out there doing bad things to us.
     
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  12. Statalyzer

    Statalyzer 10,000+ Posts

    If someone said "My mom is dying of cancer" that's one thing. If someone tells me "Hey, people with cancer are still people!" in a way that implies I don't think they are people, that's another.
     
  13. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Trudeau holla

     
  14. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    This is pretty much all anyone ever needs to know about Trudeau
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  15. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Black Lives Matter gets owned, storms off set.

     
  16. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    JF
    I watched that and I have no words
    People who want to be outraged will be able to twist reality however they need.
    Just SMH
     
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  17. Joe Fan

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  18. Joe Fan

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  19. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    The media sort of dropped this story for some unknown reason

     
  20. Joe Fan

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  21. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 2,500+ Posts

    If truth can be discarded, those students will be able to hear things such as:

    -"Your future as a graduate of Pomona College is bright!"
    -"Congratulations, you got the job!"
    -"Your argument makes a lot of sense, and I have changed my position"
    -"Working at McDonalds is not the career for you"
    -"Of course we like you, why would you think otherwise?"
    -"Good news, someone else will pay for your college education and healthcare"
    -"Obama really helped America move forward"
    -"Of course you're not going to get your *** kicked by the world when you graduate"
     
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  22. Joe Fan

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  23. Clean

    Clean 5,000+ Posts

    Never heard of the Sydney Peace Prize, but it's previous winners include Noam Chomsky so, I'm sure it's a prestigious wonderful award.
     
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  24. Joe Fan

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  25. Seattle Husker

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  26. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    What a waste of bits and bytes.
     
  27. ProdigalHorn

    ProdigalHorn 10,000+ Posts

    I'm not sure who bores me more. People who can't understand the difference between the concept that "Black Lives Matter" and the BLM movement, or the people who exploit that issue to paint someone else in a disparaging light.
     
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  28. Statalyzer

    Statalyzer 10,000+ Posts

    Not to mention there's the post making the rounds with a map of all the affected cities up and down the Texas coast and saying "Let's remember it's not just Houston".
     
  29. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    * Silence *

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  30. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    But.......but.........but we got rid of confederate statues.
     
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