I'm done with Tim Beck

Discussion in 'On The Field' started by hookemhorns99, Oct 21, 2017.

  1. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Nahlin does not think Helfrich to Texas is happening
     
  2. rick mueller

    rick mueller Burnt Orange Bleeder

    Shucks!
     
  3. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    IT says
    -- the 10th assistant will be on the offense,
    -- will likely be the play caller, and
    -- might have Co-OC title.

    Also Herman is not in a hurry. "This will be a robust search"

    Here is the idea with Beck, as they see it

    This will free up Tim Beck to hit the road hard. Beck has a good reputation in this regard. As I stated when he was hired, he's more of the point man on recruits than the closer. He isn't the reason Ohio State landed Baron Browning and Jeffrey Okudah, but he served as a great introduction to Ohio State. He's already done the same at Texas with Cameron Rising and Casey Thompson. He was the set-up man for Urban Meyer and I believe will look to serve the same role for Herman.
     
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  4. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Mehringer started following Brian Wright, the Toledo OC

    Toledo was #9 in total offense in 2017 (509.9 yards per game)
    #11 in scoring (39.2 points per game)
    #16 in passing (291.9 yards)
    #24 rushing (218.0 yards)

    Good stats for 2016 as well
    Playing in the MAC
    They even go by "UT"

    Prior to coming to Toledo, Wright coached at Florida Atlantic for four seasons as the Owls’ offensive coordinator. Wright stepped in as interim head coach for the final four games of the 2013 season, leading the Owls to four consecutive victories and bowl eligibility (6-6) for the first time since 2008. FAU outscored its last four opponents, 151-40, and averaged 428.8 yards per game. Sophomore quarterback Jaquez Johnson earned Conference USA Newcomer of the Year and set the then-school record for total offense.
     
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  5. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Besides Helfrich and Wright, here are a couple more names from double agent Chip Brown

    Brad Cornelsen, Virginia Tech offensive coordinator
    Virginia Tech's power spread offense averaged 28.2 points per game (69th in FBS) in 2017 with redshirt freshman QB Josh Jackson after a record-setting season in 2016 with QB Tyrod Evans in which the Hokies averaged 35 points per game. Before that, Cornelsen oversaw the offense at Memphis under Justin Fuente, including the development of 2-star QB Paxton Lynch into a first-round NFL draft pick.

    Graham Harrell, North Texas offensive coordinator
    Before hiring Tim Beck, Tom Herman attempted to hire OU's Lincoln Riley, a descendant of Mike Leach's Air Raid. Harrell, another Air Raid descendant, oversaw a UNT offense in 2017 that averaged 35.5 points per game in 2017 (No. 20 in FBS) with 291.9 yards passing (No. 21 in FBS) and 162.9 yards rushing (No. 67). The former Texas Tech quarterback joined Seth Littrell's staff at UNT before the 2016 season, and his offense saw the 11th-best turnaround in the nation, scoring 9.6 points per game more than it did in 2015.
     
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  6. easy

    easy 2,500+ Posts

    What’s the deal with the Todd dodge talk
     
  7. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    I left the Chip snippet on him out bc I just cant see it
     
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  8. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    I would take Kendall Briles before I would think about Graham Harrell or Cornelson, neither of whom calls plays, not to mention other issues.

    Todd Dodge is a great football mind and developer of talent. He is not a recruiter. I like Todd, helped recruit him, but his personality is just different, not bad, but frequently misconstrued.
     
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  9. X Misn Tx

    X Misn Tx 2,500+ Posts

    this is an honest question about how the coaches (Herman and Beck) see it...But what does this mean about coaching? Doesn't a guy who gets to the OC role see himeself as more than a set up recruiter? Herman obviously likes Beck to bring him over...what does Herman think about Beck's career progression?
     
  10. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    IMO, replacing him at OC answers that
     
  11. X Misn Tx

    X Misn Tx 2,500+ Posts

    sabre, do you let go of a guy you like go rather than demote and keep him? doesn't it feel like a nut cut?
     
  12. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    I can still visualize his first start
     
  13. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts


    Out placement is a wonderful thing, unless you are Mack Brown, in which case you flip the ultimatum and fire his counterpart as a distraction. That one I predicted a couple of months in advance.
     
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  14. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    No Helfrich, official

     
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  15. WorsterMan

    WorsterMan SEC here we come!!

    I'm impressed with these stats. Hope TH gives him serious consideration.
     
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  16. easy

    easy 2,500+ Posts

    That’s that I guess

     
  17. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Dodged another bullet
     
  18. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Another name in the hat

    60 year old Noel Mazzone who has worked with Tommy Tuberville (Ole Miss, 1995; Auburn, 1999), Dennis Erickson (Oregon State, 2002; ASU 2010), Chuck Amatoat NC St (where Mazzone was QB and WRs coach and worked with Philip Rivers, Ed Orgeron(Ole Miss, 2005), WR coach for the NY Jets (with Eric Manginiin, 2006), Jim Mora (UCLA 2012), and Kevin Sumlin (aggy 2016-17)
     
  19. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

    So are we just speculating here (too lazy to re-read the thread)? Is there any real indication that Herman is actively looking to make this move and bring in an new OC?
     
  20. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    The thought of Mazzone is totally underwhelming

    The only one of his employers that I give any credibility is Tuberville. He had nothing to do with play calling or the development of Rivers, that was all Chuckster. The fact that he worked not once but TWICE for that total piece of **** Erickson should ban him from entering Travis County.

    The names being thrown out are extremely troublesome.
     
  21. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  22. easy

    easy 2,500+ Posts

    Hard pass on mazzone
     
  23. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

  24. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts


    from above -- IT's view

    -- the 10th assistant will be on the offense,
    -- will likely be the play caller, and
    -- might have Co-OC title.
    Also Herman is not in a hurry. "This will be a robust search"

    Here is the idea with Beck, as they see it
    This will free up Tim Beck to hit the road hard. Beck has a good reputation in this regard. As I stated when he was hired, he's more of the point man on recruits than the closer. He isn't the reason Ohio State landed Baron Browning and Jeffrey Okudah, but he served as a great introduction to Ohio State. He's already done the same at Texas with Cameron Rising and Casey Thompson. He was the set-up man for Urban Meyer and I believe will look to serve the same role for Herman.
     
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  25. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Lots of hints Herman might simply name Carrington as the 10th assistant


     
  26. zuckercanyon

    zuckercanyon 2,500+ Posts

    Ok, just saying, isn't it a little early to give Tim Beck the GDGD treatment? Let him "screw up" for at least two seasons before everyone hangs him in effigy.....GDGD had Applewhite as a redshirt frosh and some running back who may have won some awards and mayyybeee played in the NFL for a couple of seasons while perhaps toking a bit....
     
  27. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    Hang him in effigy? The hell with that! Let's just hang him right there in Austin!
     
  28. zuckercanyon

    zuckercanyon 2,500+ Posts

    damn Chicago! bwaha!
     
  29. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    That quote was a slight twist on a Coach quote from an episode of Cheers. Wish I could take credit haha.
     
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  30. zuckercanyon

    zuckercanyon 2,500+ Posts

    Ah, yes, Coach!!!! "Albania, Albania, you border on the Adriatic"....think I got it right....
     

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