2018 Senate (& House)

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  1. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

     
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  2. Vol Horn 4 Life

    Vol Horn 4 Life Good Bye To All The Rest!

    Oddly I actually agree with her 100% on what she calls justice system reform and clean campaign finance if what I think she says is actually what she intends to do. Except for abolishing for profit incarceration. Gubment incarceration would probably be twice as expensive and half as effective. Unfortunately I have a feeling her policies are race and political affiliation based and not universal.
     
  3. ProdigalHorn

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    That "housing as a human right" is the worst idea ever, particularly from what I've heard about how hard it is to get homeless people to live in public housing when they have to abide by rules like "don't crap in the hallway," "don't rape other people," "don't do heroin," etc...
     
  4. Clean

    Clean 5,000+ Posts

    Yes, it is. Government Housing Projects have turned into some of the worst slums imaginable. Cabrini-Green in Chicago was one of the worst. They finally knocked it down.

    Below is a list of 10 of the worst public housing slums.

    http://listverse.com/2016/02/27/10-infamous-us-housing-projects/

    Under Obama, HUD mandated that new subdivisions had to allocate space for "low income housing". I assume that rule is still in effect. They want to bring the slum to your neighborhood instead of concentrating it in one big sh*thole like Cabrini-Green.
     
  5. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    With regard to this, she says she wants to end corporate money in elections. However, this is now settled constitutional law (although some older restrictions on direct corp funding of individual politicians do remain). Corporate spending on elections is protected speech (the act of speech itself is the right protected, regardless of the speaker). In any event, this is something she should already know. It is unclear whether she herself is uninformed on the law or is just trying to whip up her base who who she can count on being uninformed. Probably the former.

    In any event, why do you want to exclude corporations from politics but allow Unions and US-haters like George Soros to fund away? Seems fundamentally unfair
     
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  6. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Clean
    Obama has his hands into many of the low income housing deals done in Chicago. many of which were declared unsafe or went into bankruptcy. Along the way he added " friends" who got federal and city funds to build these places and oh by the way contributed to his campaigns.
    Nothing illegal of course.
     
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  7. Joe Fan

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    Speaking of Obama, unlike all the classy ex-Presidents who kept their big noses out of politcs after leaving office, he has been unable to resist. Why? Because he is worried about himself, of course. As always, its all about him. He worries about "his legacy." About whether history will look at him as the fart in the wind that he appears to be at present.

    However, one funny aspect of his current efforts is that he oh-so-graciously shared with us his favorites for various current races. Thanks BO. In any event, you will never guess who he refused to endorse.

    Go ahead and guess

    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

    Of the others he said, “I’m proud to endorse such a wide and impressive array of Democratic candidates — leaders as diverse, patriotic, and big-hearted as the America they’re running to represent,”

    He must not think she is patriotic or big-hearted.
     
  8. Joe Fan

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    Heh
     
  9. Clean

    Clean 5,000+ Posts

    Ocasio-Cortez reminds me of one of those goofy TV shows where somebody totally outlandish gets elected mayor of a small town. I think there's one on TV now where a rapper runs for mayor just to promote his mix tape and winds up getting elected. She's her own situation comedy.. .oh, and the face of the New Democratic Party.
     
  10. Horn6721

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    situation comedy AND New Democratic Party
    Not seeing the difference :idk:
     
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  11. Joe Fan

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  12. Joe Fan

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    RNC/GOP thinks Minnesota is close to going Red in 2018-20


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  13. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    To be fair, he's probably right.
     
  14. Joe Fan

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    I think Obama refusing to endorse this purported 'savior' of the Democratic Party is worth some news coverage. But, as far as I know, it got none.
     
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  17. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Is the BabylonBee the conservative version of The Onion?
     
  18. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    Roughly speaking, yes.
     
  19. Joe Fan

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  20. ProdigalHorn

    ProdigalHorn 10,000+ Posts

    We should probably just have a thread called "Stupid Stuff Ocasio-Cortez says":

    https://freebeacon.com/politics/ocasio-cortez-upper-middle-class-doesnt-exist-anymore-america/

    "For me, I think what's happening is a lot of these folks were in their political heyday in Third Way, '90s politics, and they were campaigning and were really kind of connected most to an electorate when they were fighting for these seats … when we had more of an American middle class," she added. "I think that politically, this upper middle class is probably more moderate, but that upper middle class doesn't exist anymore in America, and thanks to the continued deregulation of Wall Street, thanks to the continued gutting of working- and middle-class people, we need stronger champions."

    CNN reported in 2016 that the upper middle class grew to 29.4 percent of the population in 2014, more than double the 12.9 percent it occupied in 1979, according to an Urban Institute report. The organization defined "upper middle class" as having household income between $100,000 and $350,000 for a three-person family. The American Enterprise Institute also found in 2016 the upper middle class was growing.
     
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  21. 4th_floor

    4th_floor Dude, where's my laptop?

    I hesitate to say she will be the most stupid congressman. After all Maxine Waters and SheJack are still around. But she is giving those idiots a run for their money.
     
  22. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Here is the history Trump is fighting -- The midterm electorate is usually about a third smaller than in presidential elections and usually packed by angry people.

    The president’s party has lost House seats in 18 of the last 20 midterm elections, with an average loss of 33 House seats. It takes a large 'special event' to change that. In 1998, Clinton/Dems gained +5 House seats over impeachment. In 2002, W gained +6 seats in the 9/11 aftermath.

    In 2006, Rs lost 30 seats and House control. In 2010, Obama/Dems suffered a historic 63-seat loss after the forced passage of Obamacare and a fizzled jobs stimulus package, and another 13 seats were gone in 2014.

    Will Trump have enough to motivate his people to vote?
    Probably the main counterpunch is that a strong economy touches virtually every home
    -- Gallup recently found satisfaction with the country’s direction at a 12-year high
    -- Obama's desultory economy is now expanding beautifully, at 4.1% per the latest
    -- Business investments and consumer spending are up
    -- Millions of jobs have been created.
    -- Unemployment has dropped to 3.9%, even more sharply for blacks and Hispanics

    Rs did hold Ohio last night at least
    https://www.politico.com/election-results/2018/ohio/special-election/aug-07/
     
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  23. Joe Fan

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  24. Mr. Deez

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  25. mchammer

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    Special elections help the side that is the most bitter since turnout is the smallest of all elections.
     
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  26. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    This is true, but midterm elections are simply a less extreme version of the same thing.
     
  27. Clean

    Clean 5,000+ Posts

    I don't think they've officially called it for Troy Balderson, but he is the likely winner in a squeaker. Apparently the seat will be up for grabs again in November?
     
  28. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Yes. It's a special election, but it's still a House seat, so it's still subject to the November general election. Frankly I think it's a little wasteful to have a special election so close to the general, but that's beside the point. Frankly, if he can hold the seat now, he'll probably be ok in November.
     
  29. Seattle Husker

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    This will be another boon for Ohio as outside Left/Right groups will spend, spend and spend some more in hopes of taking/keeping the seat. Still, in some manner this does validate that Dems appear to be more motivated.
     
  30. Joe Fan

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