The First 100 days

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by theiioftx, Nov 10, 2016.

  1. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    No. Their definition of "better" is any condition that helps more of them get elected/re-elected.
     
  2. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Crockett
    I was quoting a survey Minority Small Business trends.
    This link suggests it is not entirely accurate. It does appear black owned small businesses did grow but not by 400%
    No, Black Business Ownership Didn't Increase 400% in One Year
    "
    In November 2017, small business financing company Guidant Financial and online credit marketplace LendingClub Corporation sent out an email survey to their clientele nationwide; they received responses from about 2,600 "current and aspiring entrepreneurs." The companies both posted general articles about the results of that survey on their websites in January without making any distinctions about race or ethnicity except that 47 percent of "aspiring entrepreneurs" surveyed were minorities.

    The 400 percent increase in black-owned businesses claim, however, was not made until a subsequent graphicwas published on Guidant's website on Aug. 8.

    It was not clear from the released results how the companies came up with the 400 percent jump. The percentage of African-American respondents who owned businesses was not published, nor was that figure from last year."
     
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  3. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    Translation - I got nothing to refute what you posted. I’m waiting for the other response which is to claim racism - the other favorite liberal tactic.
     
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  4. Crockett

    Crockett 5,000+ Posts

    The regulatory state was choking growth. I know bankers who wanted to make loans to good businessmen I know who could have used the leverage to get fantastic retuns on capital … while growing the economy. I'm sure other well intentioned regs had similar unintended consequences.
    Problem is, I remember smoggy days, rivers so polluted they caught on fire and chemical dumps that caused birth defects 50 years after they were closed. There has to be a middle ground. It's not a good idea to put the cable companies' favorite lobbyist in charge of the FCC or a shill for for-profit education charlatans in charge of the Department of Education.
     
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  5. Crockett

    Crockett 5,000+ Posts

    Nice follow-up. Admitting a source may have been mistaken is something I've had to do a time or two.
     
  6. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Better than WHAT??? It's such a superfluous argument. Nobody is arguing that the current situation isn't good, very good in fact. Context matters though.
    This line of arguments is synomous to having a QB that bails you out of 3rd and 30 from your own 5 and leads you to the opponents 5yd line only to have another QB score the TD. Which QB is better? Answer: be happy you scored and stop degrading the QBs.
     
  7. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Does the iioftex have 2 accounts?
     
  8. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Nice try at a dodgeYou accuse iiis. of offering opinion. No he posted fact
    As did I
    You do not like the facts that clearly show things are better for most people.
     
  9. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

  10. OrngNugz

    OrngNugz 500+ Posts

  11. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    DERP!!!
     
  12. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    this from Garmels link
    CBS News journalist David Begnaud reported on Wednesday that FEMA acknowledged that loads of water bottles were brought to the island in 2017 in the wake of the hurricane and that it turned them over to the "central government."

    And this report from the NYT early Aug about private donations .
    'Several trailers filled with donations for Hurricane Maria victims were found rotting at a state elections office in Puerto Rico this week.

    The New York Times reported Friday that at least 10 trailers full of food, water and baby supplies were broken open and overrun with rats.

    The Times noted that local radio station, Radio Isla, published a video showing cases of items such as beans, Tylenol and water covered in rat and lizard droppings.

    According to the Times, the Puerto Rico elections commission offices were used as a collection center for donations from private entities and nonprofit groups after the island was ravaged by Hurricane Maria last year. Once they were collected, the donations were then distributed by the National Guard.

    As the severity of the crisis diminished, the donations were then reportedly stored in trailers in the parking lot of the election bureau’s San Juan offices, where they remained despite continued problems in the region.


    yea blame Trump.
    Is that ***** mayor related to Nagin?
     
  13. 4th_floor

    4th_floor Dude, where's my laptop?

    No one wants to return to the days where real pollution was dumped into the air and waters. Today's EPA is trying to reduce carbon dioxide concentration from 0.04% back to 0.03% and will criminally prosecute you for removing a beaver dam from a creek on your land. The EPA is definitely being reined in. But it's not being eliminated. And no regulation on hazardous chemical disposal has been removed. Nor will it.
    Passing laws is the job of Congress. If an EPA is needed to advise Congress, so be it. Otherwise, we should outright abolish it. Abolishing the FCC and the DOE would make me happy as well. What good does either body do?
     
  14. NJlonghorn

    NJlonghorn 2,500+ Posts

    The population of Puerto Rico is over 3 million. The relief effort required tens of thousands of shipping containers full of food, clothing, medical supplies, generators, etc. I remember stories about how they didn't have enough trucks to drive the containers to where aid was needing, resulting in a backlog of several thousands containers in the port.
    But yes, let's blame the entire debacle on a dozen or so misplaced containers.
     
  15. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    So NJ
    You are saying there were many challenges to trying to help an island recover. And billions of tons of aid was sent by the govt but a lack of trucks
    And IIRC unnavigateable roads hampered efforts?
     
  16. Phil Elliott

    Phil Elliott 2,500+ Posts

    It's closer to right than blaming Trump.
     
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  17. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  18. ProdigalHorn

    ProdigalHorn 10,000+ Posts

    In unrelated news, 40 complaints of unwanted sexual contact were filed the next week, as Google was accused of creating an unsafe work environment by coercing women into giving consent to allow males access to their bodies.
     
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  19. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 2,500+ Posts

    Per the St. Louis Fed, avg. GDP Per Capita growth rate for 2015 thru 2016 under Obama was 1.2%. The same GDP Per Capita growth rate for Trump during the period inclusive of 2017 and the first quarter of 2018 was 2.4%.

    The quarterback named Trump is twice as good as the QB named Obama, which is why the coaches pulled Obama, set him on the bench, and cut him.
     
  20. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    Yep. The Obama economy was propped up only by quantitative easing. Once that money was cut back the economy began to sink fast. For anybody to give Obama credit for this economy is ridiculous.
     
  21. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    I am shocked. AP actually did some fact checking on Obama after his ROFLMSO ethics award speech
    AP FACT CHECK: Obama doesn't always tell the straight story
    "OBAMA: “It shouldn’t be Democratic or Republican to say that we don’t threaten the freedom of the press because they say things or publish stories we don’t like. I complained plenty about Fox News, but you never heard me threaten to shut them down or call them enemies of the people.” — rally Friday at the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign.

    THE FACTS: Trump may use extraordinary rhetoric to undermine trust in the press, but Obama arguably went farther — using extraordinary actions to block the flow of information to the public.

    The Obama administration used the 1917 Espionage Act with unprecedented vigor, prosecuting more people under that law for leaking sensitive information to the public than all previous administrations combined. Obama’s Justice Department dug into confidential communications between news organizations and their sources as part of that effort.

    In 2013 the Obama administration obtained the records of 20 Associated Press office phone lines and reporters’ home and cell phones, seizing them without notice, as part of an investigation into the disclosure of information about a foiled al-Qaida terrorist plot.
    Obama’s Justice Department also secretly dogged Fox News journalist James Rosen, getting his phone records, tracking his arrivals and departures at the State Department through his security-badge use, obtaining a search warrant to see his personal emails and naming him as a possible criminal conspirator in the investigation of a news leak.

    “The Obama administration,” The New York Times editorial board wrote at the time, “has moved beyond protecting government secrets to threatening fundamental freedoms of the press to gather news.”


    At same link AP also addresses Obama's claim for the economy growing now.

    Shocked I am.
     
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  22. I35

    I35 5,000+ Posts

    Just a random thought.

    If Trump caused the Hurricane when it got up to a category 4, then is he responsible for getting it back down to a category 1?
     
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  23. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  24. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Dems will be needing safe spaces .
     
  25. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    " .... This “issue” was not on my radar until one of my kids texted in a family chat: “Is trump off his rocker with this Puerto Rico death toll stuff?” That caused me to look into at. As so often happens, Trump is right.

    This is what is going on: Some “scientists”–read anti-Trump Democratic Party activists–constructed a theoretical baseline of how many deaths would be expected to occur in Puerto Rico during the months after Hurricane Maria. They then compared this baseline to the actual number of deaths, and voila! The actual number was higher than their hypothetical guess by 3,000. So all of those deaths–whether caused by cancer, car accidents, or whatever–are attributed to the hurricane. These activists have not made any attempt to count the actual number of hurricane-related deaths.

    No one would use such a foolish methodology except for political reasons. This is more fake news propagated by anti-Trump activists. The fake news media, like CNN, have attacked President Trump for disputing the “scientists” who came up with the 3,000 number. Sadly, some Republicans have joined them, probably because they are ignorant about what is actually going on here...."

     
  26. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    One of Hillary's emails from the Wikileaks dump --

    [​IMG]
     
  27. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    I wonder what story Woodward was reporting on when Hill sent that email?
     
  28. Crockett

    Crockett 5,000+ Posts

    Did the Russians give us a date on that email? I'm guessing it was probably this?
     
  29. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Crockett?
    What?
     
  30. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Most of those PR deaths were baked in when the hurricane came due to bad health care, infrastructure, local response, etc. There was more than just one factor besides the hurricane. Yes, it’s nothing but politics.
     
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