Comey and Mueller

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  1. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    Yes, started slow but funny at the end.
     
  2. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

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  3. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    "The Justice Department’s internal review of the Russia investigationis zeroing in on transcripts of recordings made by at least one government source who met with former Trump campaign aide George Papadopoulos overseas in 2016, specifically looking at why certain "exculpatory" material from them was not presented in subsequent applications for surveillance warrants, according to two sources familiar with the review.

    The sources also said the review is taking a closer look at the actual start date of the original FBI investigation into potential collusion between members of the Trump campaign and the Russians, as some allege the probe began earlier than thought. Both components are considered key in the review currently being led by Attorney General Bill Barr and U.S. Attorney from Connecticut John Durham -- an effort sure to draw more attention in the coming weeks and months now that Robert Mueller's testimony is in the rearview....."

    DOJ’s Russia probe review focusing on 'smoking gun' tapes of meeting with Trump aide: sources
     
  4. Clean

    Clean 5,000+ Posts

    I heard on the radio at lunch that Nadler has made over 400 TV appearances, mostly on CNN, PBS, and MSNBC, pushing his "Trump colluded with the Ruskies" narrative, for a total of 50 hours of televised interviews.

    Even though Mueller blew up in his face, he's going ahead with his plan to try to force the Justice Dept. to turn over all testimony that Mueller collected. Since that violates the laws of Congress, it's doubtful he'll get it, but you never know. He might find a sympathetic Obama judge or something.

    Even Schiff admits there will be no impeachment, but not Nadler. He's BSC.
     
  5. LongestHorn

    LongestHorn 2,500+ Posts

     
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  6. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    We got him now!
     
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  7. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    The Dems are like Homer here. No matter how hard they try, Trump keeps eating their chips.

    "This time...."

     
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  8. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    HiC
    That is even funnier than Lucy and the football
     
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  9. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    The House won't impeach Trump. They don't have the balls. Literally.

    Laurence Tribe is a nobody doing nothing, trying to do something. What is the point in even copying his tweet? Might as well have quoted Oscar the Grouch.
     
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  10. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  11. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Tribe has become a sad caricature of a respected Harvard Law prof
    He used to be admired. Now ..... just sadness
     
  12. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    Perfect. Keeps the Democrat primary in the shadows and the Democrat idiocy in the spotlight. I swear the Democrats want four more years of Trump.
     
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  13. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    This " Laurence Tribe is a nobody doing nothing, trying to do something" is :bow: worthy.
     
  14. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    This entire case reeked of politics the whole way through

    The short of is that is the FBI aimed an informant at Maria Butina with orders to begin a sexual relationship with her. They then lied to Butina’s defense team about the informant and what the informant said about her intent because his reports undermined the government’s case. This was a Brady violation, at minimum.

    Butina was a member of a nascent Russian gun rights movement. She got 18 months in prison for failing to register under FARA. Contrary to what you might see on CNN, she was not a "foreign intelligence agent" and was never charged with that. Instead, Butina is now in prison for doing what Tony Podesta did every day, for years, and got constant White House invitations for it.

    The reality for Butina is that she was a Russian in the United States at a very bad time to be a Russian in the US. Her other big mistake was showing interesting in working with the NRA. Hardly anything causes liberals to pee their pants quicker than the NRA. The NRA supports Republicans, thus, NRA "bad." It is that simple. Liberal media types began using this case as a tool to claim the NRA was a "Russian influenced organization." That was, of course, complete nonsense. But sadly something that the average low-information Dem voters was emotionally pre conditioned to accept.
     
  15. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    A Russian that is supporting gun rights isn't a Russian foreign agent. She is a revolutionary that Putin has to worry about. Russia has had the strictest of gun rights since 1919. Of course in 1918 those same law makers were shooting Czar Nick and his kids in the back with guns.
     
  16. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    From The Hill "James Comey's next reckoning is imminent — this time for leaking"

    "The Justice Department’s chief watchdog is preparing a damning report on James Comey’s conduct in his final days as FBI director that likely will conclude he leaked classified information and showed a lack of candor after his own agency began looking into his feud with President Trump over the Russia probe.

    Inspector General (IG) Michael Horowitz’s team referred Comey for possible prosecution under the classified information protection laws, but Department of Justice (DOJ) prosecutors working for Attorney General William Barr reportedly have decided to decline prosecution — a decision that’s likely to upset Comey's conservative critics.

    Prosecutors found the IG’s findings compelling but decided not to bring charges because they did not believe they had enough evidence of Comey’s intent to violate the law, according to multiple sources.

    The concerns stem from the fact that one memo that Comey leaked to a friend specifically to be published by the media — as he admitted in congressional testimony — contained information classified at the lowest level of “confidential,” and that classification was made by the FBI after Comey had transmitted the information, the sources said.

    Although a technical violation, DOJ did not want to “make its first case against the Russia investigators with such thin margins and look petty and vindictive,” a source told me, explaining the DOJ’s rationale.

    But Comey and others inside the FBI and the DOJ during his tenure still face legal jeopardy in ongoing probes by the IG and Barr-appointed special prosecutor John Durham. Those investigations are focused on the origins of the Russia investigation that included a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrant targeting the Trump campaign at the end of the 2016 election, the source said...."

    James Comey's next reckoning is imminent — this time for leaking
     
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  17. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    Hannity discussing this right now.
     
  18. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    This can’t happen soon enough.
     
  19. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    I am shocked, shocked I tells ya, that the ongoing and never-ending Schiff, Nadler, et al, investigations haven't uncovered any of this information.
     
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  20. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    Barr declining to prosecute as of now. WTH?
     
  21. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    Anyone else think the Hillary camp and others were so sure she would win that they had Comey make the announcement of further Hillary investigations? I mean, they were 99% going to win. So, she wins. Comey "investigates" but finds nothing. All is good, nothing to see here, move along folks.
     
  22. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    I think any talk of accountability for Comey is a pipe dream.
     
  23. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    Sadly, I agree with you.
     
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  24. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    Yep, just heard on Fox news that Barr and DOJ are declining to prosecute.

    Bullet proof.
     
  25. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    Once again, the justice department has no credibility.
     
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  26. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    horninchicago and theiioftx, the reality that we are witnessing is that the US Fed Gov is its own entity with its own interests. It doesn't matter that Comey worked against Trump and that Barr is working for him. It doesn't matter that Hillary and Trump were opponents in the 2016 election. Those in the US Fed Gov are all a part of the same organism. They are loyal to all those in it before they are loyal to us. It is why Lois Lerner didn't get prosecuted even after the Congress and Senate went to the Republicans and then Trump won the Presidency. It is also why Pelosi does not want to impeach Trump.

    They protect their own. They are all their own.

    It is why Pelosi is willing to oppose The Conquistador publicly. You don't go after the family like that. The game is to argue about minutiae. Gay marriage. Trans bathrooms. Etc. Things that really don't affect a vast majority of the country and don't effect how we in the US are governed.

    Yes. Occasionally, someone goes to jail or gets indicted, but it is always one or two people who may or may not be at the core of what is going on. It is called "the limited hangout". It is when the government does just enough to keep popular criticism at bay.
     
  27. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    That is all somewhat true, but it doesn't explain why Horowitz even recommended prosecution. Why even announce that if all that is true?
     
  28. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    I don't know. There are always hints that this or that will happen. I don't know how that fits into my conspiracy theory. I suspect that my theory is broadly true, but not that some of it isn't even conscious. Or that not everybody goes along with the consensus according to my theory. Some bring up prosecution to see how it flies politically. Then you see how it flies politically. No follow through.
     
  29. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    DOJ says the Team Mueller boondoggle cost the US Taxpayer ~$32 million
     
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  30. mb227

    mb227 de Plorable

    I feel sorry for that taxpayer... :)
     
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