Impeachment

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by mchammer, Sep 24, 2019.

  1. I35

    I35 5,000+ Posts

    I think he’s pretty accurate. That’s refreshing.
     
  2. LongestHorn

    LongestHorn 2,500+ Posts

    Of course you do.
     
  3. I35

    I35 5,000+ Posts

    And of course you don’t. You prefer all the game playing and politicians never doing what they say they are going to do. :yippee:
     
  4. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Wtf? I get you not wanting to discuss the hypocrisy of YOUR OWN statements but this distraction attempt was amateurish. You just drafted an argument out of whole cloth that nobody made, including those on the left. Seriously...who made any argument of believing Schiff or Trump? I'd call that argument a straw man but that would be giving it too much credit.

    I'm going to assume you chuckled when you typed that because "real examples" of Trump lies have been plentiful and cited often on the West Mall.
     
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  5. Crockett

    Crockett 5,000+ Posts

    I35 -- You never heard him say he was going to release his tax returns, Mexico is going to pay for the wall; there was zero contact between my campaign and the Russians; I'm going to balance the budget in my first termWe didn't release the funds to the Ukraine, because (take your pick of) Other European Countries weren't paying their fair share or the Ukrainians are not fully investigating internal corruption.
     
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  6. LongestHorn

    LongestHorn 2,500+ Posts

    But Trump isn’t a politician, remember? He’s draining the swamp, remember?
     
  7. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    Wasn't it one or two leaks? Besides, it wasn't an impeachment inquiry. The democrats in the House are deliberately putting out a one sided story every single day trying to affect an election. The fact that you spinning it shows me you're all for it.
     
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  8. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Apparently the hot leak from yesterday that was from the ambassador was 2nd hand information that he readily used to disparage Trump. I would call that garbage. Thus, I will stand up to Trump to say he was wrong. That guy was human garbage, not scum.
     
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  9. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    I was wondering what narrative the right wing conspiracy sites were taking. Thanks for sharing.
     
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  10. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    One or two leaks? :lmao:Who is spinning? Please step back into reality so we can have a more educated debate.

    I'm not in favor of most leaking. Of course, were I you I'm sure I too would be cowering at the extent of the corruption.
     
  11. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    We got Trump now!:lmao:

    Edit- You still haven't learned a damn thing over the last few years, have you?
     
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  12. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    You talk a lot of smack for someone who I've had to correct dozens of times. When this impeachment fiasco is done I'll show you again where you went wrong.
     
  13. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Unlike Trump, you can't make up ******** and claim its true. I'm sure you'll continue to try because lacking facts and evidence haven't been an impediment to your claims historically.
     
  14. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    Btw, this is the kind of stuff that's not making the press. Zeldin says that Volker backs up Trump.
     
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  15. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    You're so delusional. I had to correct you the other day about the hiring of Biden's son to Burisma. Being wrong is constant from you.
     
  16. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    I'm being lectured from someone who fell for nearly every Russian collusion story that the media propped up. :lmao:
     
  17. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Isn't that a leak you claim disdain for? Is it really only leaks adverse to Trump you have disdain for?
     
  18. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    Zeldin is close to having my vote in 2024.
     
  19. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Yep...dozens!!!! You could count on a few fingers how many times I've admitted you were right and I was incorrect. The difference between you and I is that I'm man enough to admit it when I'm wrong.

    Fyi- I had edited and removed that statement before you posted your response after realizing my error on dates.
     
  20. huisache

    huisache 2,500+ Posts

    All politicians lie all the time and nothing any of them say should ever be believed
     
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  21. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    He talked in generalities and nothing too specific. He wasn't punished, was he? Why didn't the media run with this? Remember when you said that Volker didn't know? Wrong again, huh?
     
  22. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    People on Twitter were making fun of Trump saying the investigation was being done in secret away from the public’s eye as if he was criticizing the well-developed criminal proceedings of a grand jury. However the “smart folks” are too dumb to note that grand juries aren’t suppose to leak info. The fact the Dems have leaked info to the press underscores the fact that impeachment is political. Thus, Trump has every right to ask for transparency. This is the type of really dumb **** that is coming out of Washington in the guise of smart commentary.
     
  23. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    The Spanish loved secret hearings too

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  24. LongestHorn

    LongestHorn 2,500+ Posts

    Are you talking about Bill Taylor?
     
  25. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Not sure. It wasn’t televised.
     
  26. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    This is what Mchammer was talking about. Hardly a right wing source.
    From the Minneapolis Star Tribune:

    "In Taylor's 15-page opening statement obtained by the AP and other news organizations, the diplomat named administration officials who he said told him Trump had demanded of the Ukrainians an investigation of Burisma, a Ukrainian gas company that once employed the son of former Vice President Biden."

    "Taylor detailed conversations in which he said administration officials told him Trump was conditioning Ukrainian military aid and an Oval Office visit coveted by Zelenskiy on Ukraine probing Democrat Joe Biden and his son and allegations of interference in the 2016 election."

    GOP stands by Trump, gingerly, after diplomat's testimony
     
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  27. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

  28. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    The California lawmaker also claimed the impeachment inquiry process continues to be based largely on testimony from those without first-hand knowledge of the Trump-Ukraine situation.

    "The one thing that you find out in this process is all this information is just like that whistleblower... everything is second-, third-, and fourth-hand information," he said.

    Republican lawmaker 'destroyed' latest impeachment inquiry witness argument: McCarthy
     
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  29. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    This didn't age well..
     
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  30. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    This was posted...emphasis is mine.
    Lot's of info in the Taylor opening statement. Not sure I'd call that the most important thus my response. Seriously, mchammer and his posts are ignoring that per Taylor's testimony Sondland told him directly that 'everything' was dependent on the investigations. That wasn't 2nd or 3rd hand. Taylor also discussed the meeting with the OMB on 7/18 which an unnamed woman from OMB claimed the aid was put on hold by "Trump to Chief of Staff to OMB".

    Thus, this was my response. It's almost like y'all want to avoid the most damning information. One might suspect bias at best and intentional obfuscation at worst.

     

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