Impeachment

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by mchammer, Sep 24, 2019.

  1. I35

    I35 5,000+ Posts

    Have you ever heard of someone asked to be kicked in the groin over and over? That’s the Democrat party for the last 3 years.
     
  2. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

    Their beneficiaries are adding up:

    1) Reparations
    2) Illegal aliens (open border package)
    3) Student loan debt forgiveness
    4) Medicare for all
    5) Socialism as a catch-all TBD.

    The defense against any dissent is to accuse the dissenter of either being a racist or heartless. The economic impact is not to be considered.
     
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  3. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

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  4. Monahorns

    Monahorns 10,000+ Posts

    No, but what Spain taught the US was to use camps as a why to wage war against irregular forces, i.e. guerilla warfare. Spain used that in Cuba to try to isolate fighters from the populace which supported them generally. The US did that against the Filipinos after the US "freed" them from Spain but didn't leave them to be free.

    The US also did some of that against the Plains Indians. So it did predate the Spanish American war stuff a bit. There is was all ethnic or national affiliation. Not so good either.

    But your point in the 2nd paragraph still stands. The Spanish and Americans didn't intend to kill all the people in the camps. The intention was to feed and house them until after the war was over. With the Indians the camps were not so concentrated and the intention was to change to pacify them.

    The Nazis wanted Jews out of Germany one way of another. The Soviets weren't as efficient or as precise. They just wanted kulaks and capitalists out of their country too. They sent them to Siberia to hard labor with no real provisions of food or shelter. They sent some things, but not enough to sustain life. The idea is that they would all die working for the revolution. Those that didn't had ties to organized crime or produced food of their own and built their own shelter. Gulags were intended death camps.
     
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  5. Monahorns

    Monahorns 10,000+ Posts

    Just adding context that the Nazis didn't come up with the concept. They were borrowing from others.
     
  6. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

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  7. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    I35 and I are correct. Between the transcript and Zelnsky saying there was no quid pro quo that should have been the end of it.
     
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  8. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Where is that rest button when you need it?

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  9. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    Musbergerbis gonna love this.
     
  10. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    Put DJT under oath and see what happens. He can’t tell the truth about his bowel movements let alone real facts.
     
  11. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?
     
  12. I35

    I35 5,000+ Posts

    I’m okay looking into all politicians. But it gets to the point the credibility is shot when the accusers serve nothing but nothing burgers every time. Mueller looked into Trump for two years and nothing. It gets pretty obvious when it’s turned into a political game. It seems pretty obvious to most of America anyway.
     
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  13. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    So it was cool for Clinton to lie because Trump presumably would lie? This is the problem with politics.
     
  14. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Doesn't look good. Maybe it'll be enough to get the Senate to do the House's work for them. Weird that the House didn't give a **** when the matter was in their domain.
     
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  15. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

    That's just it:

    "We know he did it we just can't prove it."
    "He would do the same thing."

    This kind of rationalization is killing us...
     
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  16. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Lev Parnas is just Michael Avenatti with more gold chains. He is trying to pull a Michael Cohen and get a lighter sentence or easier prison. The Rs should simply say "OK, that weirdo can testify, but we get Brennan, Clapper, the Whistleblower and Schiff"
     
  17. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    He said bye already
     
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  18. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    And yet this same guy criticized Republicans for investigating Clinton. The reality is that both Clinton and Trump did things that warranted investigation. And he claims they found "jack squat" (presumably referring to Whitewater), and after a few dead witnesses, lots of shredded documents, and another witness who went to jail for contempt to keep from testifying, sure enough, they didn't find jack squat.
     
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  19. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Coulter today on impeachment -- in which she was involved although didnt get much recognition for

    IMPEACHMENT: DO REPUBLICANS HAVE MORE FUN?
    January 15, 2020
    "Impeachments aren’t what they used to be. Today, young people are supposed to be excited that the president withheld taxpayer money from Ukraine –- a half-billion-dollar foreign aid package that ticks off most Americans under any circumstances, going to a country notable for not being our country, and for a purpose other than the wall.

    Now, Bill Clinton –- that was an impeachment[​IMG]!

    First, there was the corpus delicti of the case -- a White House intern, Monica Lewinsky, earning her “presidential kneepads” by sexually servicing the president.

    The telephonic evidence wasn’t about “Burisma Holdings Limited” or a Ukrainian prosecutor whose name no one can remember. It was tapes of Monica blathering on and on about servicing the president, including such fascinating items as:

    -- Clinton couldn’t remember Monica’s name after their first two sexual encounters;

    -- Monica’s suggestion to Clinton that she be named “assistant to the president for b--- jobs"; ..."​
    January 15, 2020 - IMPEACHMENT: DO REPUBLICANS HAVE MORE FUN?
     
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  20. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

     
  21. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    i laughed
     
  22. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    Yeah, when preliminary evidence points to someone being innocent (like in the quid pro quo), stuff is usually dropped. However, democrats decide to go on fishing expedition after fishing expedition in order to find something.
     
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  23. I35

    I35 5,000+ Posts

    Let me make sure I understand we are talking about the same thing here. I didn’t read all above to get the context. When you say things, are you talking about the phone call with the Ukraine leader? If so, Trump released the phone call transcript (which should have been the end of it) but let the Dems continue to play their silly *** games with the clown show where no witnesses that were there or none had any information except assumptions (witnesses words).

    If the transcript didn’t end it, then the witnesses with no facts should have. But they voted to Impeach anyway and send it to the senate where they then played games with the articles of impeachment by holding on to it to try to persuade the Senate to continue their clown show.

    If you are talking about something totally different then let me know and I’ll go back and read it all.
     
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  24. I35

    I35 5,000+ Posts

    That’s exactly what they do. They go investigate without a crime and go fishing in hopes to find something. They have no idea where it will go when they start as long as they are playing offense. It’s just a distraction
     
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  25. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

    We know the Left would have shrieked to high heaven if the same scenario existed for Trump or any other Republican President.

    Kind of reminds me of Barry Bonds trainer who spent time in jail because he refused to testify. Later then Bonds and his attorney's acted like he was exonerated....
     
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  26. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Nancy was giving out impeachment swag at her signing party -- impeachment koozies reserved for the after party. So much for "somber and prayerful”
     
  27. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

    When it is clear that the platform is only cries of racism/white supremacy along with vote buying schemes (reparations, de facto open borders with benefits and sanctuary, student debt forgiveness, green justice and socialism as a catch-all) then they must continue to beat the drum of Trump's bribery/treason because nothing else will get a moderate or a true conservative to vote Liberal on all their hyperbolic social demands.

    Maxine Waters: ‘I believe’ Trump-Putin conspiracy ‘even though I don’t have the facts to prove it’
     
  28. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    There needs to be a sad icon that I can select.
     
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  29. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    You mean like roger stone? And all the others who refuse to testify?
     
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  30. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    So no one wants to discuss lev Parnes documents? They were stalking an ambassador. Remember the perfect call? She’s going to go through some things.
     

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