Coronavirus

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  1. Facing Addiction

    Facing Addiction 1,000+ Posts

    Thanks. He was always larger than life, both physically and personality wise. I never thought of him as big until I saw a picture of us together and he dwarfed me, and I'm 6' 1". If he was only 19, that would have been 10 years ago. He ended up becoming a ski instructor, if you can imagine that. He taught the local kids here over the ski season in a 13 week program. We've set up a memorial scholarship fund in his honor to help families whose kids might not otherwise be able to afford the program. It's set up as a perpetual account and the scholarships come from the interest earned on the principle. This year, the first year, we were able to award 6 scholarships. Unfortunately the Coronavirus shutdown killed two end of ski season fund raisers for the scholarship.

    We haven't gotten tested. You have to call for a screening to set an appointment and the nearest place to be tested is 30 miles away. By the time we'd get the results, it will have probably run its course. We're doing the things that they would tell us to do even if it came back positive. We're not stressed about it and knowing or not knowing doesn't really matter.
     
  2. AustinHorn24

    AustinHorn24 250+ Posts

    Haven't seen any studies on the other drugs. I agree with you, lets use it.

    In fact I would consider it medical negligence not to use it at this point, even though we don't have a large data set, it's not fair to patients to deny them this treatment, even though we'd like to have more data before widespread use.

    This could be a moment similar to the early 1960s when pediatric leukemia was a death sentence with a mortality rate of over 95%. One of my mentors was around when the first VAMP-CNS protocol was developed in 1961. When the first paper came out, it was a small study that had only 27 children in it. However the results were unbelievable -- over 90% were cancer-free after one year, a result that shocked everyone at the time, in fact the first reviewers wanted to audit Boston Children's data because they were convinced that it must be fake to show results that promising.

    There were larger studies planned before the protocol became adopted nationwide, but he told us that he knew he couldn't wait for that to happen and started using the protocol immediately on the kids he treated. At that time, it was considered borderline unethical considering that VAMP was much more intensive chemo than had ever been used before -- many doctors thought it would kill the kids because it was too toxic.

    But they were wrong -- within a few years VAMP was standard protocol for pediatric leukemia and tens of thousands of kids survived what was previously almost certain death.
     
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  3. Driver 8

    Driver 8 Amor Fati

    What happened, the blood draw?
     
  4. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    No blood draw. Reaaallly long swab up the nostril. It is very quick but extremely uncomfortable.
     
  5. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    We could test 85 tomorrow with a 1ish day turnaround. This is very new. Once the big labs for the testing up we didn’t need the burdensome test kit. It’s still not enough and the toothpaste is out of the tube with community spread anyway.
     
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  6. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Gavin Newsom decides to act like a statesman despite CNN encouraging him to be a partisan hack like they are. Link.
     
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  7. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    The real source of the Coronavirus.

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  8. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

    I give Newsom credit for this. He's the prototypical California left-wing feminist ground zero Liberal but this is good news. It actually made me feel good to read his comments.
     
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  9. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    I agree. It's just pathetic when our media is more partisan and one-sided than actual politicians.
     
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  10. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

    It's sickening to me; especially their sanctimony and how so many people in Liberal land think Trump is trying to suppress the press when in fact the press is willfully dividing us and waving the Liberal flag.
     
  11. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    You know the Governor's have to toe the line publicly or they'll get the treatment that Trump gave Michigan. Kind of sad.
     
  12. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    I love the look on Tapper's face. Very constipated look.
     
  13. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Lol. There were Democratic governors backing down on the partisanship before the pissing match with Gretchen Whitmer.
     
  14. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    But of course, we've got Switzer claiming that Trump has intimidated all the governors into being nice.
     
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  15. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Bubba
    Do you have a source that shows Michigan did not get something they ask for?

    I will tell you what IS sad. She denied the docs from using the cholorquine treatment for a week. She has changed her mind
    How many died tbat could have been saved?
     
  16. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    To be fair, he has that as a resting face.
     
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  17. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 2,500+ Posts

    She doesn't have the power to do that. She may have tried, but any doctor worth his salt would have ignored the fool.
     
  18. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    The Big Hospital Lobby is fighting 'price transparency" in the face of all of this

     
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  19. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  20. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Wow so many Chinese living here seem to hate us
     
  21. WorsterMan

    WorsterMan SEC here we come!!

    What the HELL is wrong with people!!! :angry:
     
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  22. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    It's been a conference call day.
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    THE PRESIDENT: I think they should be appreciative because you know what? When they’re not appreciative to me, they’re not appreciative to the Army Corps. They’re not appreciative to FEMA. It’s not right. These people are incredible. They’re working 24 hours a day. Mike Pence — I mean, Mike Pence, I don’t think he sleeps anymore. These — these are people that should be appreciated.

    He calls all the governors. I tell him — I mean, I’m a different type of person — I say, “Mike, don’t call the governor of Washington. You’re wasting your time with him. Don’t call the woman in Michigan.” All — it doesn’t make any difference what happens —
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    An effort to explain the variance. The issue is that it implies that each state starts at the same level of preparedness.

    Here’s Why Florida Got All the Emergency Medical Supplies It Requested While Other States Did Not — ProPublica
     
  23. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    I think the worry is that the patients dependent on these meds for their daily life now can't get them due to the backlog because the supply chain wasn't prepared. I get trying it to see if it works but people seem to want to take it before even being diagnosed with COVID.
     
  24. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    Medicare rate is the price.
     
  25. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 2,500+ Posts

    How nice of the Governor of MeatChicken to decide what is best for everyone.
     
  26. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    You do understand that this article doesn't support your political narrative, right?
     
  27. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    The article makes efforts to explain it. It may be wholly reasonable.
     
  28. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    My doc thinks this has been proven not to work.
     
  29. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    I'm curious to where he's getting his proof from.
     
  30. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 2,500+ Posts

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