I agree with your sentiment, but my serious concern is how do we respond/react/recognize when there is evil or the untoward infiltrating our land? If every conspiracy theory is scoffed at and every accuser bemoaned, every outer outed and every patriot decried...you have the proverbial frog in the pot. I've researched communism and many other vile philosophies and they depend on this to take root. Not everything is true...but that doesn't mean nothing is. As I mentioned a week or so ago, I think the elevator scene in Hitchcock's North by Northwest captures this well.
Never mind that a rate is a rate, regardless of the number of persons tested. There are too many idiots out there who are incapable of doing some very simple math...
He mentioned it bc that was the readily available information that was known at the time. My memory is that all he said was it "looks promising." There was data from France (2 sets) and data from a doctor in NY working in a Hasidic community. I posted all of that in here before Trump even. Why should he not mention it? I believe that had this been Obama doing the same, you guys would be applauding him for taking a public position directly at odds with Big Pharma. He would be feted, even called a genius. Perhaps he would be nominated for another Nobel? But none of that for the Trump. Instead it was "attack!" As it is every day. But this time, all you nattering nabobs of negativism may have caused someone suffering at the hands of this virus the chance to receive a lifesaving medication. You politicized a treatment. That is on you.
There was nothing wrong with President Trump mentioning the promise if HCL. I do think he overstated the potential, but that is only a minor quibble. My issue is that President Trump's supporters give too much credit to HCL as a potential treatment. It is nothing more than one of many experimental treatments that show a glimmer of promise. Because of that glimmer of promise, it is being studied. The idea that it should be used more, whether at the expense of or in lieu of other treatments, is not supported by evidence.
There is no doubt that Hydroxychloroquine saved lives. Even Tom Hanks was given it. However, he refused to praise it because, at the time, you guys were trying to tie it around Trump's neck and strangle him with it. And so Hanks kept it quiet thus preventing wider awareness of the treatment which may have helped tens of thousands more. And for what? Because the hate animal has to eat. Daily.
Your side made HCL a political football The Trump people jumped in once they figured out how much it got under your skin - it was the response. But they didnt start it.
Note Phase 2 trial starts soon and Phase 3 trial to start in July. By Sept 1, it may be known whether a vaccine will work. Moderna shares surge following positive data on coronavirus vaccine trial — CNBC
My best proposal is allow students and season ticket holders to attend 1 out of 6 home games. Thus, stadium is 1/6 full (1 out of six seats on average).
Can. My hope is that stadiums will come up with some guidelines, improve ventilation of indoor venues, and place hand sanitizer bottles all over the stadium. It will hurt some of the workers, but maybe even allow fans to bring in their own drinks/snacks.
The issue here is not with you but rather the talking heads on MSNBC, CNN, the New York Times, the Washington Post and all of the other arse faces in the White House press corps that insist that hydroxychloroquine is a Trump drug that might kill you even though doctors all over the world have been using it to great effect in treating patients with coronavirus with far greater than a 20% success rate. "Anecdotal" does not mean conjecture or hypothesis or "this is just my opinion." It's literally the experience that people have. When a doctor says "I have treated hundreds of people with this drug in combination with other drugs and it is overwhelmingly effective" that doesn't mean that doctor is saying "well I think this works and it's my opinion that it might work but I don't have any real evidence to back it up." The doctor is literally saying "I have literally use this drug and it has literally helped most of the people I have given it to and here are the results." I am 100% certain you understand all of this but there are a lot of dumb asses out there that don't that think trump wants them to go drink fish tank cleaner and it's just one big guessing game. Go tell these doctors that their treatment experience doesnt mean crap because after all it's just "anecdotal."
Your argument would make sense if the choice was between HCL and nothing. But it isn't. The choice is between HCL and some other treatment. Sure, some patients might've been saved if their doctors had switched them from Treatment X to HCL. But other patients might've been killed by the very same switch. Without further study, we will never know. We need to let the medical and scientific communities address this problem, not the political community.
If mainstream opinion correlated even remotely with what you just said, I'd be singing a different tune. Unfortunately, it doesn't. I have heard isolated statements from doctors that give a VERY toned down version of what you say. And I've heard statements from even more doctors saying it is not nearly that effective.
NJ I only know of HCQ/z and remdesvir. One is decades old dirtt cheap and has been used successfully for thousands by reputable Docs all over the world The other costs thousands and has so far not been used on as many. If there are 2 that work Great If you just step back and view the MSM coverage one can see the difference in coveragre of each drug and wonder why.
Without going out of my way I've probably seen about a dozen doctors say its been very effective. Take my post in its full context, not one selective paragraph. Unless you don't keep up with the mainstream media, Hydroxychloroquine is portrayed as a Trumpian death drug that hes making money on and that's why he's promoting it so much. Hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin as a Treatment of COVID-19: Results of an Open-Label Non-Randomized Clinical Trial - PubMed None of this means there ultimately aren't better treatments but if you watch or read the majority of the mainstream news, you are a kook if you think hydroxychloroquine has any positive effect at all. The issue is what the mainstream media feeds the masses and I can tell you I know a lot of intelligent people that think hydroxychloroquine is just Trump junk.
Practicing what he preaches. Trump revealed to reporters on Monday he’s taking hydroxychloroquine in an effort to prevent getting coronavirus, saying he’s been taking a pill every day for about a week and a half. Trump reveals he's taking hydroxychloroquine in effort to prevent coronavirus symptoms
My argument in that sentence was that the world would be better off if Tom Hanks had simply told the truth about him being treated with chloroquine. Are you really taking issue with this? You would be taken more serious as a poster if you drop this tendency you have of always creating a straw man so you can then make your point. For the umpteenth time, I never said patients should only be treated with chloroquine. If you really think that's true, the go find it. Prove it up. Otherwise, cut the crap. Funny. For the last time, the chronology was -- Trump brought up HCL in the pressers. Did not make it policial. Just said "shows promise" Your side pounced. Constantly ridiculing him about HCL Trump's side responded by taking every instance of successful HCL treatment and shoving it back in y'alls' faces Today, you would rather stick to "the science"
Is there any MSM narrative that you don't buy into? For the people who don't know the MSM/Twitter idiots without proof are saying that Trump is lying and is not taking HCQ. Btw, LH, are we going to have an election this fall?
