2020 Presidential Election: let the jockeying commence

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  1. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    One more aspect to Arizona - Republicans requested ~14k more ballots than Democrats in early voting but are returning them slower
     
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  2. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    In one Q, the USA recovered ~2/3 of the GDP lost due to the virus from China

    This figure is 2X the previous quarterly record, which was set ~70 years ago

     
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  3. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Florida early in person
    Thurs am update -- Rs +428,554

    Also as of this am
    Palm Beach Early Voting -- Rs +2,100
    Miami-Dade Early Voting -- Rs +7,000
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    edit - now Rs +429,181 (growing by the hour)
     
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  4. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Sports media twitter is coming hard after poor ol Jack Nicklaus today

     
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  5. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    But now they like us again
     
  6. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    Good for Jack.

    f the twitterhaters
     
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  7. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    The economy is only down 3-4% from this time last year.
     
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  8. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    I will be gobsmacked if they didnt have copies
    But wow the DMC is scary And scared
     
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  9. 4th_floor

    4th_floor Dude, where's my laptop?

    Please don't ever use the phrase "bang Nancy" again. I lost my breakfast. :puke:
     
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  10. 4th_floor

    4th_floor Dude, where's my laptop?

    I wouldn't do Pelosi with your gavel.
     
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  11. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    North Carolina update
    The Dem EV lead fell last night to ~285k (In 2016, their EV lead was ~310k going in, when Hillary lost by 3 points)
    The current estimate for their 2020 EV lead going into election day is now ~230k
    If this holds, Rs project to win NC by 4 points

    Also, the key black vote demographic is currently below 20% (now at just 19.78%)
    Biden will need more than that to win NC
     
  12. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Junk poll but seems accurate here.


     
  13. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Trump retweets this guy:

     
  14. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Now Rs +430,165
    Should have said 'growling by the minute'
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    edit -- Now Rs +431,154
    And Dem EV lead (in vote by mail + in person) down to D+189,754

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    Remember that these are inferences based off voter registration (has nothing to do with polling). If Dems crush it with independents in Florida (which arent reflected), Biden would still have a good chance. But that is a huge IF.

    Likewise, another weakness of this type of projection is that they do not include "crossovers." There will be some, but I cant see very many R-to-D crossovers with Trump's super high approval rate among registered Republicans. But, as with all things, we will see
     
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  15. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    And that is with rounding (I assume without digging in)
     
  16. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Not all states provide this same level of EV breakdown as North Carolina
    One way to try and project a national trend on black vote is to extrapolate the NC data, which naturally carries a wider MOE. Still, if we do this --

    Looks like the black vote will be down ~4% in NC
    Of those who do vote, Trump may get 15%
    If we assume national black turnout down 5% and that Trump takes another 15% of the turnout, then Dems are set to lose a combined 4-5 million black votes in 2020.
    And Joe Biden would only get ~81% of the black turnout (Hillary had ~88% and lost)
    IF all of this is true, then Trump could win both EC and PV
    But, it's a lot of assumptions
     
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  17. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Georgia
    Much of the media, including Fox even, are relying on media polls to conclude Georgia will go Dem
    But check out NBC's numbers which are fairly up to date -- Dems did have the VBM lead, but early in person voting is changing it. Early in person over the last 5 days is Rs+7
    As stated in 2016, IMO, linear regression models based on party registration produce more accurate results

    [​IMG]

    Here is the hardlink if that is too blurry Georgia election results 2020: Live results by county
    Set the bottom chart to "party registration"
     
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  18. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    More Georgia
    The way this state works demographically, Dems need a black turnout of 30%+
    In order for Dems to sweep the entire state, black turnout would have to be ~35%
    Right now, black turnout in Georgia is just slightly above 27%

    There is a rumor there among Dems that Stacey Abrams thinks that if Biden wins now that she will lose in 2022. So she has not gone out of her way to help Joe in 2020
     
  19. Monahorns

    Monahorns 10,000+ Posts

    But I had to see her unpleasant face on a Youtube ad about 100 times trying to get money for Joe's campaign.
     
  20. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

     
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  21. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    OK, that just what my hs friend now in the ATL told me
     
  22. Horn2RunAgain

    Horn2RunAgain 2,500+ Posts

    I've been following that link for over a week now. Just from the data today it looks like...

    Biden looks solid in PA, NV
    Looks promising in NC, IA, MN

    Trump looks solid in TX, MI, GA, OH, WI

    Toss up per data in FL

    None of this takes into account game day action (voting day historic trends)

    Also, it contradicts what polling experts are touting (WI , MI are leaning dem etc)
     
  23. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Florida
    The Dem Vote By Mail lead began as Ds +632,615
    Early In Person Voting now has Rs +439,750
    632,615 - 439,750 = Ds +192,865
    Biden needs a bigger margin than that going into election day
     
  24. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Disagree on Florida
    I am concerned the outbreak in Wisc may hurt R turnout day of election voting. We will see
    NV and AZ are going to be close, but Trump has a shot
    I think he should spend his final days on Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania
     
  25. mchammer

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  26. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Trump has 3 rallies on Friday in MN, WI, and MI and 3 rallies on Saturday in PA. He is in FL and NC today. Note he is not visiting TX-GA-OH-IA of late.
     
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  27. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Arizona
    The original Dem VBM lead has been cut in half over the last 3-4 days

     
  28. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    I think Biden cut his ad buying in those states too
    Conclusion?
     
  29. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Maybe Biden is counting on the Bloomberg multi million $ ad buy
    And cheating
    Harris is coming Fri
     
  30. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    Is it possible it will be at 2016 levels by the end of early voting you think?
     

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