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Discussion in 'West Mall' started by Joe Fan, Aug 5, 2019.

  1. VYFan

    VYFan 2,500+ Posts

    The sign says, I think, "safe for 10,000 days."
     
  2. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    So you've done a little of the Devil's Work. . .
     
  3. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    @mchammer is a riddle trapped in an enigma.
     
  4. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    It depends. Producing chemicals from petroleum based feedstock can be more expensive, but it also produces more valuable by-products than if producing chemicals from natural gas liquids such as ethane, propane, and butane. The competitor for methane (nat gas) is coal in China. These two are roughly similar in cost. Gas-derived chemicals have an advantage when gas is cheap and oil is expensive. This was true in 2010-2015. Before fracking, gas was expensive and oil was cheap in 2001-2009 (so the reverse). Today, cost between the two for chemical feedstock is roughly comparable.
     
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  5. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    I know you are being facetious, but the products from mnfg. plants that I have designed improve the standard of living in places like China, Thailand, and India. There is no sin in that. Further, absent our participation, the Chinese would have chosen Swiss or substandard Chinese technology. These projects are wins from multiple angles.
     
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  6. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    If anyone cared to notice, China stopped stealing our jobs about 10 years ago. There is only so many low end assembly-type and textile jobs that you can displace by a low labor cost foreign exporter. Yes, the damage is real but it’s old news. Again, China only became a threat when they threatened the jobs of high tech, finance, and the military-industrial complex.
     
  7. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    My biggest beefs with the middle kingdom:

    1. Theft of intellectual property
    2. Expansionism in the S. China Sea (and elsewhere)

    If their heads get too inflated, just remind them that historically, they are Japan's *****.

    Oh yeah, and their historical Buddhist culture was from India.

    I hear the Chinese are big admirers of Japan and India.
     
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  8. 4th_floor

    4th_floor Dude, where's my laptop?

    China steals technology and IP now.
     
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  9. humahuma

    humahuma 1,000+ Posts

    China steals technology and IP now.

    And Elections
     
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  10. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    You could put those in the "knowledge worker" category. Heck, the same jobs China stole from us are now being stolen by other low labor cost markets (Bangladesh, Vietnam, etc). 75% of our assembly jobs were simply replaced by automation.

    China is still a major threat to technology theft. They are a copy-cat country in that that haven't typically innovated well but rapidly copy what we create. Personally, for all the negative criticism of our educational system we turn out innovative thinkers. China and India struggle with innovation because they aren't allowed that freedom in school. When students are taught the singular, most efficient way to do anything they struggle with out of the box thinking. At least, that's my experience in IT managing and working with offshore teams.
     
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  11. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  12. Monahorns

    Monahorns 10,000+ Posts

    That is all what we expect, but I am really skeptical someone said that in a large room like that. I don't know Chinese so any words could be written in the translation and I wouldn't know any better.
     
  13. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

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  14. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    As someone who has changed a few thousand diapers, I'm not sure I follow the logic on this. A diaper doesn't eliminate the need to go to the bathroom. It only contains the "waste" long enough to keep it from getting on clothes. (And even that isn't perfect. Deez, Jr. had two monumental blowouts in Munich when he was a baby.) It has to be dealt with pretty quickly, and if it isn't, you'll get a rash. That's definitely true of a baby, and I don't see why that wouldn't be true of an adult.

    Even if it buys you a few minutes, diapers also stink. Do you want to get served food by someone who smells like the least appetizing thing imaginable? I don't.
     
  15. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    "Deez, Jr. Had Two Monumental Blowouts in Munich" reads like the title of a children's book. Maybe you got something there
     
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  16. VYFan

    VYFan 2,500+ Posts

    When I read the headline of that article, I actually thought the flight attendants had been complaining of being groped, and the diapers were just so the customers would get a fistful of diaper.

    I suppose their plan would still provide that deterrence, even more so.
     
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  17. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Didnt know this - and it feels somewhat disturbing
    I think these connections are going to become more noticeable as Biden drives the country into the dirt, to the benefit of China

     
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  18. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Ted Cruz calls this "one of the greatest tweets of all time"


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  19. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    What crap. He needs to be investigated along with the Bidens
     
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  20. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    It's not surprising. Both parties have been in the sack with China. Right now Democrats are probably worse, but plenty of Republican have done and still do their bidding.
     
  21. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    And it's about to get ,....
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  22. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    It is pretty funny if you think about it

    It's a bit like a yo mama joke

    "How much does this woman love China?"

    "She love China so much she _____ "

    She love China so much she fornicated with that guy.
    Many times.
    For free!
    (well, sort of)


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    Last edited: Dec 17, 2020
  23. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  24. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  25. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Breaking with tradition, the WAPO reported something about Amazon
    And I am willing to bet you some phone calls were made over this

     
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  26. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Biden is going to act like being tough on China was his idea. They will keep 80% of Trump policy but still trash the man. The only folks who are unable to see this are the progressive left. They are getting rolled over.
     
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  27. 2003TexasGrad

    2003TexasGrad Son of a Motherless Goat

    If Biden keeps 80% of Trump policy that would be amazing.
     
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  28. Monahorns

    Monahorns 10,000+ Posts

    We know he will keep printing money left and right like Trump. Foreign policy probably won't be much different, but a bit more aggressive. Trump was a moderating influence to the DOD/NSA.
     
  29. 4th_floor

    4th_floor Dude, where's my laptop?

    Only for countries who don't pay Hunter or James. I can't see Biden being aggressive anywhere, especially not in Russia, China, or Ukraine.
     
  30. 4th_floor

    4th_floor Dude, where's my laptop?

    My unsolicited take is that WAPO is trying to get back the pretense of fairness. Only the most "special" (spethal?) among us will believe it.
     
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