The First 100 days

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by theiioftx, Nov 10, 2016.

  1. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    This is not draining the swamp. It IS the swamp.

    Today the Trump administration announced 40 appointments to an array of government boards for his close allies.

    Grift!
     
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  2. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    This is grift lite. Major grift is when you profit off bad legislation that hurt the non-elite. Not really comparable.
     
  3. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    So "grift lite" is OK as long as it's the party you support? To me, either you're part of the grift or not. You can't say you're there to "drain the swamp" then simultaneously wallow in it. If your interested in bad legislation that hurt non-elite and benefited elite I'd point to that major tax cut in 2016.
     
  4. huisache

    huisache 2,500+ Posts

    Every president is entitled to do a little resume padding for his loyalists. I don’t like him but he hasn’t pardoned Marc Rich on his way out.
    I say cut him some slack
     
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  5. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    I’ve agreed with Huisache and Bubba on the same day. If I find some way to agree with Husker, I am buying a Powerball ticket tomorrow. It’s like hitting the trifecta at the Kentucky Derby.
     
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  6. Run Pincher

    Run Pincher 2,500+ Posts

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  7. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    Pelosi is proud of that but the Trump tax saving was an insult to Americans according to her.
     
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  8. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Don't forget Pelosi called the other much larger stimulus check "crumbs"
     
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  9. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Sending direct money to citizens (like social security) is the best way to do it. Yes, money can get debased over time if overdone, but it would be applied equally vs your typical government program where winners and losers are chosen.
     
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  10. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    The swamp pardons the swamp. Dec. 22, 2020 was a good day to be a disgraced Republican congressman. Duncan Hunter, Chris Collins. Additionally, lying to federal investigators was always OK per Stone/Flynn clemency/pardon but was reinforced. Taking care of your loyalists is acceptable per at least one member on Hornfans.
     
  11. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    The means testing (less than $99k AGI) further ensures it will get to the people that need it most. In most cases, that money will get spent quickly ensuring it is actually a stimulus to the economy and not saved/invested.
     
  12. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Hey...Trump now pardons Roger Stone, Paul Manafort and Jared Kushner's dad. Just the swamp enhancing the swamp. Sleaziest POTUS since Nixon? Yes, that's even considering Slick Willie.
     
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  13. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

  14. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Manafort, Roger Stone and Charles Kushner is a middle finger to the swamp for illegal leaks? It's Christmas so I'll go gentle and simply say God bless you.
     
  15. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Maybe there will be a Christmas miracle this year to cure your TDS.
     
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  16. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    Not a chance.
     
  17. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Anyway, I agree with you 50% on these pardons but here is the alternative view. If you have a problem with the pardons, take it up with him:

     
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  18. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

     
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  19. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    Statements like this makes you realize what this "investigation" was all about. Corrupt from the top to the bottom.
     
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  20. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    As of November. With latest round, Trump slightly edges HW Bush.


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  21. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    No mc
    That can't be right. That would spoil the haters rant
     
  22. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    You're arguing "volume" and I'm pointing at the personal connections to Trump. The Pardon power is an awesome responsibility. Y'all are equivocating pardoning some random person in jail for drug possession with Trump's closest allies.

    Here a Harvard professor is tracking what is now 94 Pardons/Commutations for Trump. Of the 94 only 7 were recommended by a DOJ attorney, a department setup to vet requests and avoid the abuse we are witnessing. 40 of the 94 have a direct relationship with Trump or someone close to Trump. This is cronyism. It's the antithesis of "law and order". Our country is being run by a mob boss whose fanbase will bend over backwards to justify their actions.
     
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  23. Monahorns

    Monahorns 10,000+ Posts

    SeattleHusker. You are completely correct. This is literally the swamp. Putting political appointees into full time, career bureaucratic positions. It hurts us all and there is nothing voters can truly do about it.
     
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  24. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 2,500+ Posts

    Only a misguided Liberal would say that a tax cut that resulted in better GDP growth, the lowest unemployment ever reached for minorities, the highest level stock markets have ever reached, increased tax revenues for the Feds, and real growth in income for the American middle class would be bad legislation.

    Keep in mind, the added tax revenue allows Congress to fund more transgendered Pakistanis.
     
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  25. Monahorns

    Monahorns 10,000+ Posts

    Actually the best thing to do and the only thing that will truly help is to lift all mask mandates and business restrictions.
     
  26. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 2,500+ Posts

    But you weren't bitching when Obama pardoned a couple thousand convicts. Isn't that also the antithesis of law and order? You also tried to justify Obama sending $1.8billion in cash to the world's leading terror sponsor. My how your biased brain makes you look foolish time after time.
     
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  27. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    Trump tried the "right way" at first and what did it get him? Leaks and idiots who wanted to make a fast buck by writing tell-all books about him. Trump needs to have close allies in positions of power from now on (if a miracle happens of course) .
     
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  28. Monahorns

    Monahorns 10,000+ Posts

    Garmel, adding to the Swamp isn't the answer. He can fire anyone who doesn't implement his policy. He can have evaluations done to see who's who. What he shouldn't do is add to the Swamp. This is exactly why we are in the position we are in. This is why the government doesn't work anymore. All these permanent politicians are creating their own satrapis with no consideration for any of us.
     
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  29. Horn2RunAgain

    Horn2RunAgain 2,500+ Posts

    Post of the year.
     
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  30. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    I made more money in last 4 years (2017-2020) than the previous 12 years combined (2005-2016).
     

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