Twitter

The market will provide a solution it always does.

 

Not if, whatever solution arises, is then blackballed by the tech monopolies.

 

Are there not any conservatives who can set up an independent social media website? I could do the overall structure, but not programming. I don't understand why it's so difficult as many people that can do Java, C++, Python, etc.

 

If Amazon, Google and Apple want you to die, you probably are going to die

 

Records show fervent Trump fans fueled US Capitol takeover
As the arrests continue there will be mostly Trump supporters at a Trump event.

 

Certainly a business opportunity for a well funded entrepreneur with an established brand that has an identified market and audience. Should be to attract ample funding in no time.

 

Maybe Tik tok is available

 

Facebook and Twitter have done much more harm than good to our social discourse but I blame the algorithms that simultaneously push us into our news bubbles while also seeding radical posts to incite us to respond, thus use the platform more.

To be sure, without Section 230 the internet wouldn't exist as we know it. Hornfans probably wouldn't be around. It's not just Twitter and Facebook but any blogging platform or message board is at risk. Back in the day I had a personal website on Geocities. Without Section 230 that isn't possible. Heck, Spotify allows self publishing your own music now. Do they suddenly become responsible for an song that radicalizes a person who listens to it on their platform?

I get the concerns for unequal monitoring. Just not sure wiping Section 230 is the right route.

It's a pendulum that has been swinging. Facebook has actively begun deleting Groups with radical discussions. All the major sites have begun implementing 3-strikes policies. The problem it that when you moderate speech, any enforcement is going to be ambiguous. When you're talking 10's or 100's of millions of active users, not everyone gets moderated. It's impossible.

As someone that has worked for multiple International companies, you have to modify your business for the local market. At Starbucks that meant selling pastries local to the market (e.g. moon pies in China). Our stores in China were busiest in the evening as a gathering place thus needed to be larger with lots of seating space. We didn't have any drive thru locations in Asia. Surprisingly, the Chinese stores were MORE community oriented. This is why Google decided that Chinese security rules were too much for them to do business there so they pulled out.

If you're Twitter, do you have the same rules for a US customer as an Iranian customer? Why? Facebook?

Clearly, the more "followed" a person is the more of a spotlight they have on them on Twitter. Some schlub with 2 followers is like a bear shitting in the woods. Does anyone care? Compare that to someone with millions of followers. Is that right? No but if you're the CA State Fire battling 30 blazes simultaneously they always focus on the most dangerous first.

I've never visited Parler but have seen the underbelly of sites like Reddit. You've literally had people espousing the execution of government officials. Members of these groups have said things like they are on their way to kill these officials. This isn't a few exceptions but large groups together inciting each other. If this was in the 1920's the police would bust into the warehouse where they were meeting and arrest the leader. How is shutting down a site, or group, organizing and coordinating seditious and violent behavior any different?

 

All the other smaller vendors, of course, quickly followed suit (out of fear)
This ensured the destruction of Parler.
This is vast monopolistic power on display for all to see.
Here, it was marshaled for the explicit purpose of terminating political speech

Same question as always -- who are the modern Fascists in America?

 

The Mercer's were reportedly behind Parler. I think the entire supply chain of a website may suddenly be problematic for these extremist, or at least unmoderated, social media platforms. Any singular site is a consortium of companies providing services whether that be hosting, DNS, ad-servers, user authentication, etc. I'm not sure a 1-stop shop to do that all exists and that includes the behemoths like Google and Amazon.

 

Cramer leans left, but let's hope he's right about Twitter.

 

This group is already planning to do much more than just conspiring to prevent US conservatives from enjoying their right to free speech
They are already organizing to control the behavior of entire European nations

The people are dangerous
Your silence is acquiescence to the their agenda
You cannot say you were no warned

 

When a small town baker in Colorado declined to customize a wedding cake for a gay couple, liberals went wild, screaming "Discrimination! and "Illegal!"

When trillion dollar conglomerates conspire to exclude millions of people from using the internet solely due to politics, liberals are all like -- "Freedom of association!" and Free enterprise!"

 

I for one would rather radicals post their messages where they can be monitored to prevent an attack. Shutting their means of public communication and forcing them underground is not helpful to law enforcement.

 

When people point out the whataboutism do they realize that they are also pointing out their own hypocrisy? Just curious if that ever occurs to them? In this case, @JoeFan defended the baker and also criticizes Twitter.

 

75 million Americans voted for Trump
They are hardly dangerous "radicals"
These are the same Americans who defeated the British in the Revolution, who fought and died in a war with Mexico which gave us the West Coast, who fought and died to preserve the union, who fought and died to save the world from Fascism, from the Naziis, from the evil Japanese, from the f'n Commies and more recently from Islamic terrorism. They deserve more respect than they are getting.

 

Again, you miss that speech goes BEYOND the First goddamned Amendment. Twitter is a publicly traded company. They have obligations to be followed before unilaterally engaging in conduct the courts would call Prior Restraint.

Your household analogy is so far off base that it isn't even laughable. To begin with, a house is not something being set up to offer services to the public and has no obligations to outside stakeholders. I would go on but it is clear you don't grasp simple concepts.

They have harmed shareholder valuation through their actions AND simultaneously drawn the scorn of other first-world nations, including some not exactly fans of DJT.

The ONLY good thing out of all of this was people like me and others who had the wisdom to short TWTR on Friday made a nice chunk of change before 8AM today.

The irony is that the left has tacitly admitted that 'Rules for Thee but not For Me' is an acceptable manner of doing business AND that they approve of monopolistic actions. Middle America woke up this morning and is realizing WHY it is not good to have so much power in the hands of a few companies and maybe even recall WHY we broke the Bell System up all those years ago...

 

How long before they get the boot?

 

75M Americans weren't banned from Twitter.

 

They are very old people! Especially the ones from the Revolution!

 

There is an effort under way to doxx anyone who was on Parler

Who behaves this way?

1. Puppies?
2. Butterflies?
3. Rainbows?, or
4. Fascists?​

 

Take TGFAP (actually Tesla for Twitter) out of the stock market gains for 2020 and you will see the value that they have for the investers and the economy.
Regulate them all and see the obvious result of restrictions.
Oh wait, conservatives like me already know these things about Govt intervention in the marketplace.

 

Twitter banished a large percentage of their American customer base through the weekend purge. This is why their stock tanked after the regular market hours Friday and continuing into this morning. No violations of the Terms of Service...but the accounts nonetheless went *poof*

 

Alex Jones and InfoWars is probably a good example of what happens when the social media platforms dont have any guidelines for everyone to operate within.

IF Alex or DJT think they have been treated unfairly by any company let them sue.

 

But you have no problems when the likes of AOC speak of having to 'reeducate' the Trump base. And yes, people like her have spoken in the exact same context as the Chinese camps. And since, according to Twitter, context and 'interpretation' matter, i would opine she is far more dangerous than the soccer moms with a MAGA sticker on the minivan...

You are watching Cancel Culture played out in a McCarthyistic manner...only you are too clouded by your TDS to recognize it.

 

The claimants just need to claim they are gay. Instead of wanting a gay cake, they just want their gay voice heard. Instant win!

 

I was thinking the same thing iis. It is more helpful for police and security to monitor violent groups and short circuit there efforts than to force them underground to plan in secret.