Coronavirus

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  1. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    But every one of them thinks they are the smartest, most important people on the planet.

    One of the first sales calls I made was with a doctor. After the meeting, I asked him why he didn’t tell the potential customer he was a doctor? His answer was “doctors are ********. I didn’t want him to think I was an *******.”
     
  2. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    "No....you're not....an *******. Really. "
     
  3. AustinHorn24

    AustinHorn24 250+ Posts

    The question is, 'Do I have a 'God Complex'?...which makes me wonder if you have any idea as to the kind of grades one has to receive in college to be accepted at a top medical school. Or if you have the vaguest clue as to how talented someone has to be to lead a surgical team. I have an M.D. from Harvard, I am board certified in cardio-thoracic medicine and trauma surgery, I have been awarded citations from seven different medical boards in New England, and I am never, ever sick at sea. So I ask you; when someone goes into that chapel and they fall on their knees and they pray to God that their wife doesn't miscarry or that their daughter doesn't bleed to death or that their mother doesn't suffer acute neural trauma from postoperative shock, who do you think they're praying to? Now, go ahead and read your Bible, and you go to your church, and, with any luck, you might win the annual raffle. But if you're looking for God, he was in operating room number two on November 17, and he doesn't like to be second guessed. You ask me if I have a God complex? Let me tell you something: I am God.
     
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  4. AustinHorn24

    AustinHorn24 250+ Posts

    And?

    Am I supposed to be impressed by that?
     
  5. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    Who cares what you are impressed by?
     
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  6. AustinHorn24

    AustinHorn24 250+ Posts

    Apparently the guy above me did because he gave me his resume :lol:
     
  7. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    Thanks for proving my point. You think of yourself as a god. You think very highly of yourself and look down on others. I’m guessing everyone in your OR and the hospital in general hate your guts. The hospital only likes your volume and revenue. They speak very negatively about you when you are not around. You are a prostitute in essence.

    My guess is I could buy you 10 times over. I actually buy multiple doctor hospital practices every year. I was just at a dinner in Pennsylvania consummating the purchase of a 15 member practice.

    And CT surgeons are the absolute worst human beings and the worst at paying their bills. Your presence here makes so much sense now. Either sponsor or take your ilk to Shaggy.
     
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  8. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    Okay, that's actually funny. More of that would be helpful.
     
  9. AustinHorn24

    AustinHorn24 250+ Posts

    Should I fill this guy in or does somebody else want to do it for me?
     
  10. OrangeShogun

    OrangeShogun 500+ Posts

    Can't recall which movie that's from. One of the Baldwin boys, yes?
     
  11. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    If you sponsor, I’ll do it for you. Nobody likes you here either. Let’s see how many agree with you or me.
     
  12. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    I like him. :)
     
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  13. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    Well let’s see the response. Let’s remember you are a sooner and we know you suck.
     
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  14. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

     
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  15. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 2,500+ Posts

    I'm not conflating them. I pointed out the deaths from AEMT vs the deaths from Covid. The AEMT deaths would/will probably be less from vaccines. At least I hope so. The point I was making is that it is none of your business to tell others what to do because 1) you have no idea of what the effects would/will be, 2) because you over value both medical knowledge and the government's ability, and 3) because it is none of your business.

    You worry about you.
     
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  16. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    :hookem:
     
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  17. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

    Anybody here seeing any credibility at all to the COVID vaccine causing infertility in women? My 17 year old daughter is terrified of this happening and I'm working her through it. Apparently she's getting this information from her girl friends so I looked it up. I've read many articles indicating the protein in the placenta has a numerical sequence that has a similar number to the COVID protein. Using a phone number analogy, it would be as if the #7 (randomly selected #) is in both sequences but that is the only number that is similar. The vaccine supposedly seeks out the phone number of the COVID Protein and won't attack the protein in the placenta but there aren't any on point studies confirming this as best I can tell. But I believe this sort of thing happens with all vaccines and they supposedly understand that the similar number does not cause problems with other vaccines so it shouldn't with this one.

    Thoughts?
     
  18. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    I'll wait for an actual scientist to chime in but I think this is not a worry.
     
  19. humahuma

    humahuma 1,000+ Posts

    I know a female medical student who had some of her eggs frozen before being vaccinated. I thought it was extreme, she had the two shot vaccine. She wanted the J & J vaccine, she wouldn’t of frozen eggs if she got the J & J.
     
  20. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

    That's my opinion too but this is a real parenting moment. I'm about to order my 17 old daughter to do (she turns 18 in December) it. She'll be an adult in the not to distant future but will still be in high school at that time. We've discussed passing it to others. I've gone through all the cards in the deck concerning the need to be vaccinated (which I have done as has her 24 year old brother). I told her I was really surprised we were running into this problem. Ultimately, her meek response was she wanted to wait a few more months to see if her fears are unfounded, BUT, as you know, COVID could strike at any time.
     
  21. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    You are exactly right except it is the antibodies produced by the vaccine that attacks. What is missing is context. There are probably 50 other potential targets with the same amount of code similarity as the one in the placenta. You can’t expect folks to understand that the placenta isn’t the only one at risk. Yes, experimental vaccines can be harmful, as with anything we put in our body. Again, more context provides a better picture. At the end of the day, you have to look at actual data to see if any harm is being done.
     
  22. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    All three of my child bearing age girls got the mRNA vaccines.
     
  23. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

    Pfizer? I'm hearing Pfizer for 16+ but you should wait until you're 18 for the other two.
     
  24. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    Yes. I think the other two will be cleared down to 16 soon. I think they're testing them for children as well.

    My 24 year old got Moderna.
     
  25. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

    Ok. Thanks. Moderna for me, my wife and my son.
     
  26. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

  27. AustinHorn24

    AustinHorn24 250+ Posts

    As per usual with this stuff it's nonsense.

    The sequence homology shared the COVID spike protein and between syncytin-1 which is found in the placenta (and other tissues) is only 4 amino acids. Autoimmune antibody complexes generally only cause cross-reactions with sequence homologies that involve a higher number of amino acids. The entire syncytin-1 protein has 538 amino acids.

    Also, if the mRNA that gets translated in the ribosome into a protein caused a cross over reaction due to similar sequence homology with syncytin-1, then getting the actual COVID virus would cause infertility in females without getting a vaccine.

    Since there has been no evidence of widespread infertility from COVID itself, it stands to follow that the COVID vaccine would be even less likely to induce an autoimmune reaction leading to infertility.
     
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  28. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

    See if I can get my daughter to read this! Ha... I'm going to need your resume though, as it was apparent she figured I'd be engaging in a form of confirmation bias in my research.
     
  29. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    Obviously you’re a concerned parent By and I respect that but I wouldn’t be pushing my young daughter to get it. But respectfully that’s just me. We all have our own opinions and I’m one of those weirdos that took Hcq and darn glad I did.
     
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  30. mb227

    mb227 de Plorable

    No evidence because 1) these are all arguably still in a trial phase and 2) there has not been any meaningful effort into studying that element of potential adverse reaction.

    Issues related to fertility are something that NO meaningful pronouncement can be made for at least a few years. It isn't like every test subject or even those in the general population being injected then promptly rush out for an injection of a different type...

    Until someone is actually trying to get knocked up, they won't know whether they are actually infertile or not...some who are infertile as a side effect might even simply believe they have been lucky for the past few months or that whatever method of contraception in use has thus far not been a failure.
     
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