2022 House and Senate election

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by mchammer, Dec 8, 2021.

  1. BrntOrngStmpeDe

    BrntOrngStmpeDe 1,000+ Posts

    I didn't realize she was born outside of US. I honestly have a bit of an issue with that. I don't think naturalized citizens should be allowed to hold office. I still think most 1st and 2nd Gen's have too much loyalty to their origin country to hold US office.
     
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  2. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    I agree, but the ship sailed on that long ago.
     
  3. guy4321

    guy4321 2,500+ Posts

    What about local office like mayor or school board?
     
  4. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Believe it or not, some states wait till August for their primary. So, election season is about to enter the doldrums until then. Dems can ignore their fate until Labor Day.
     
  5. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    An interesting thing about the Flores win - I looked into her opponent (Dan Sanchez) a little, and he wasn't a left-wing kook. In fact, he was vocally pro-life. When he lost, he complained that the DCCC put little effort into his race even though it was winnable. I wonder if his not being a wingnut had something to do with their lack of help.
     
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  6. guy4321

    guy4321 2,500+ Posts

    1870 was a while ago...

     
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  7. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    And now she is going after AOC and Squad for being against America.
    How will Demx attack her?

    Yes many naturalized citizens keep loyalty to home country
    But she has been here since she was 6. And apparently her parents embraced their new country.
     
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  8. guy4321

    guy4321 2,500+ Posts

    I see Dems going after her husband, who is a Border Patrol agent, by saying she hates her own people, etc.
     
  9. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Guy
    You are probably right. It will backfire if they do.
     
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  10. BrntOrngStmpeDe

    BrntOrngStmpeDe 1,000+ Posts

    It is a thorny issue and one that we are unlikely to ever do anything about, but I don't believe 1st Gen's should be able to hold any office (local >>> Federal). They are not a monolith but many 1st Gen's and even 2nd Gen's cling to their respective diasporas (for understandable reasons). but this then disincentivizes melting into our melting pot. and when this happens many become disenchanted with America because they are not reaping the benefits of America as soon or as easily as they think they should. This breeds resentment and in some, hatred of America. (e.g. The Squad)
     
  11. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    BOSD
    I do see your point and agree that more often than not their loyalty is not to America.
    Mayra does not seem to be one of them
    But your point is still valid. Don't think we can change it now
     
  12. guy4321

    guy4321 2,500+ Posts

    I understand the concern as well, but I also understand the US Constitution has always said US Reps have to be US citizens for at least seven years. Not native born.
     
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  13. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

  14. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    No doubt she will be pilloried as a Tia Tomasina.
     
  15. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    When children are in charge of foreign policy:

     
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  16. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    I never understood how seizing private property of private citizens, even "oligarch private citizens " is punitive to a government.
    Why don't we sell them?
    Selling them has to be as legal as seizing them.
     
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  17. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    Kids out of wedlock coming out the woodwork for Herschel Walker. This ironic clip is his son ranting about kids out of wedlock. Irony lives.
     
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  18. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Biden still hasn’t recognized his granddaughter. Why not focus on that first before attacking Walker?
     
  19. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Why would it be ironic for Walker’s son to rant? Are you on meth?
     
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  20. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Get it straight. The issue is Taking care of your children.
    Herschel has said he acknowledges loves and supports his children.
    No baby mama has had to take him to court to get support that I know of
    It may not be the way most of us would live but it is not unusual

    And as long as he is supporting his kids Demx need to look to their own before trying to use it to politcally damage an opponent.

    Remember Hunter's baby mama had to go to court to force a DNA test and get support.
    Grandma Jill still does not recognize her own grandbaby.
     
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  21. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

     
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  22. guy4321

    guy4321 2,500+ Posts

    So there's white Mexican now? How many colors of Mexican are there? I've heard of brown before. Is there black Mexican? Yellow Mexican?
     
  23. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    Meth? What’s wrong with you? Walker’s campaign has been critical of absentee African American fathers.

    “Walker's disclosure is the second time this week the former star professional football player, who has been repeatedly publicly critical of African American absentee fathers, has been forced to admit he had children out of wedlock after media reports of their existence.”

    Absent fathers. Maybe he should have read the room and not campaigned on that part.
     
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  24. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    Is Hunter running for senate?
     
  25. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    Doesn’t need to cause he’s got papa to do his bidding.
     
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  26. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    I hesitate to say it, but I'm on Team Switzer on this, and with all due respect, you two are full of ****. There's nothing wrong with criticizing the black community about absentee fathers. It's the defining challenge of their community and has been for the last 60 years, and nothing has been a greater cause of black social, economic, and cultural problems.

    However, if Walker has been making babies out of wedlock, he is in no position to launch that criticism. It isn't because he's wrong. It's because he doesn't have the credibility. And so what if he hasn't been derelict in his child support obligations? Failing to pay child support is bad, but it's not the root of the problem or even close to it. If failure to pay child support was the big problem in the black community, then kids raised by single moms getting a government check would be just as well off as kids with dads in the home, which obviously isn't true.

    The real problem is the dad not living with the children and raising them day in and day out. That is the real work of being a father, and it's what makes the difference between being a good father and a crappy father. That's why a poor man can be a great father and a rich man can be a terrible one (even if he pays his child support and spends a lot of money on his kids). The absent father is the root of the problem in the black community, and it sounds like Walker was an absent father himself. Shame on him for it, and his criticisms, though true, ring hollow because of his hypocrisy.
     
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  27. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Wait. Bubba
    So you think having kids with different mamas BUT supporting them means he is unqualified to run for Senate.
    Why?
    He apparently supports them and is available for them . Has a baby mama come forward to complain otherwise?
     
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  28. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    Deez said it better than I could.
     
  29. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Mr D
    Is there a credible link or source showing Walker is refusing to provide support or refusing to acknowledge these kids?
    Are these kids all in one place and he is refusing them attention?
    BTW
    These kids, names and ages were all disclosed in 2018 when Walker was named to POTUS Physical Fitness Council.
    So he acknowledges them, supports them.
    How Does he not have credibility??
     
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  30. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    Ha ha ha. Need of this. Shame these RINOs and get some people in who really believe in liberty and love America.

     

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