Brittany Griner

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by justabbfan, Mar 6, 2022.

  1. mb227

    mb227 de Plorable

    Surely you realize that Texas and other States ALSO require inmates who are medically eligible to work in various jobs, including some in the fields with an aggy (and not the skool type of aggy).

    Most Texas prisons are NOT air conditioned. Some have had to retrofit after some older sex offenders whined and sniveled in federal court. Are Texas prisons without A/C pleasant? Not really. But they were not unbearable. I know...I worked in several of them at the start of my career.

    We were already molly-coddling them even before the 1992 Consent Decree.
     
  2. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    It's common knowledge that prisoners are treated rough here, but in a Russian labor camp, they've got no rights at all. They're probably not even fed enough to keep them from slowly starving and wasting away. "Russian labor camp" sounds like a Gulag.
     
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  3. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    mb,

    I thought William Wayne Justice (pardon the profanity) ruled the State could not force the prisoners to work.
     
  4. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    In some prisons, don't they pay them some really small wage for their work, with which they can buy stuff like toothbrushes, paper, and stamps from the prison "store"? Maybe that's in some other states...?
     
  5. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Chop,

    My understanding is that is correct. Some work the cattle and fields because it allows them to be outside the walls. See the long narrow strip of land across from Sugar Land airport that Gerlad Hines optioned for the Saturn plant.
     
  6. mb227

    mb227 de Plorable

    We were allowed to work them, just not in segregated groups and only for certain hours. Food and water also could not be denied to those who refused.

    That said, we were STILL permitted to stack the periods of cell restriction and other privileges for those who refused to turn out for a job which was consistent with their medical profile.

    Units around the State still have LOTS of make-work field squads for the disciplinary problems...
     
  7. mb227

    mb227 de Plorable

    The only ones in Texas paying any sort of wage are a couple of the privately-operated facilities. Henderson Controls at Lockhart is one of those. And they don't get to keep all of it...some goes to victims, some goes to fines and costs. I forget the precise breakdown but we had a client who was in that program for a few years before the release to parole took place...

    Regular units do not pay...commissary is purchased with money from families or friends. Those without funds get indigent supplies like tooth powder and a limited amount of postage and supplies.
     
  8. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    mb,

    I had a friend in Mexico City whose uncle was sentenced to many years in a labor camp in Siberia when he was about 70. They forced the old man to work 12-16 hours a day at hard labor. Fortunately, his son became a valued scientist and part of the deal was his release and certain perks with a new life.
     
  9. mb227

    mb227 de Plorable

    Outside trusties tend to love the units where they can work unsupervised outside of the perimeter. We did have an idiot former-attorney who whined because he was required to ride a tractor for 12-14 hours a day and that 'just wasn't fair.' Meanwhile, MOST trusties in those positions LOVE longer hours outside, even during the summer. Dog boys, err kennel attendants, are another class that put in long hours but love the work they are assigned. They also tend to keep up with the horses used by the field force bosses...
     
  10. mb227

    mb227 de Plorable

    Inmates in this State are NOT 'treated rough.' Quit being a bleeding heart. It shows you have never seen the inside of a Texas correctional facility.
     
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  11. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    mb
    Reading about a former attorney prisoner whining about being on a tractor was just freakin :bounce2::bounce1::mj::hammertime::clap:
     
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  12. huisache

    huisache 2,500+ Posts

    I had one acquaintance who did some time on one of the farms and said it was not bad at all except for the absence of women. He liked driving tractors and handling cattle.
     
  13. mb227

    mb227 de Plorable

    Yeah, the outside trusties don't get a lot of access to the punk tanks ;)
     
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  14. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    It’s reportedly getting even worse for Griner.
    She’s in a long-hours labor camp/gulag, and being fed insufficient amounts of food. And the food she does get is bad/rotten. And the Russian Winter is here. It’s just going further downhill for her in Russia.
     
  15. mb227

    mb227 de Plorable

    If she is not being treated differently than others in that facility, then I don't see the fundamental issue. Unless there is disparate treatment, this is pearl-clutching by entities applying US standards to another nation. Well, guess what...US standards are not what drive the day. Griner committed an offense in another nation and does not derive the benefit of US Constitutional protections.
     
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  16. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    It reminds me of the Michael Fay freakout. I'll bet most forgot about that. Back in the '90s, he went to Singapore and vandalized cars and stole some road signs. He was sentenced to getting caned, and a bunch of American media outlets freaked out that he'd get corporal punishment for what he did and pushed the State Department to intervene. Singapore thinks you deserve a literal ***-whippin' for vandalism or threat. If you don't like that, don't steal or vandalize there. Pretty simple.

    Likewise, don't try to bring dope into Russia.
     
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  17. Horn2RunAgain

    Horn2RunAgain 2,500+ Posts

    I'll take a knee for her
     
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  18. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    Now THAT was funny.

    :lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:
     
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  19. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    It seems to me that most Americans would reflect on this and be thankful that we live in a country with due process, Constitutional protections, (mostly) proportional punishments, and (while unpleasant) at least not medieval/slow starvation/freeze them/work them to death—type punishments.

    That’s how I look at it.

    :usa::usa::usa::usa::usa::usa::usa::usa:
     
  20. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    As for Griner herself, I hope she gets out of that frozen sh!thole—alive and soon. I thinks she’s just stupid and careless, not evil.

    Maybe she’ll appreciate the USA a lot more.
     
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  21. Horn2RunAgain

    Horn2RunAgain 2,500+ Posts

    Not to sound mean, but I doubt it.
     
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  22. Chop

    Chop 10,000+ Posts

    There’s a serious chance that she won’t survive. It’s a gulag.
     
  23. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    Correct. She will blame the oppressive US for having to have been in Russia in the first place.
     
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  24. Horn2RunAgain

    Horn2RunAgain 2,500+ Posts

    Again, not to be mean but one would have to either be stupid, or think she was totally above any and all laws to think she wouldn't have to face consequences. Everyone knows a Russian prison is hell.

    She's living a reality now, not the coddled existence of a pro athlete. She can only blame herself
     
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  25. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Wish the pearl clutchers cared as much for the innocent people STILL in jail here in USA for Jan6
     
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  26. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    I find astounding people can be charged for trespassing after being invited in by the capital police.
     
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  27. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    Disagree. She has political value because of her relatively high profile. That should insure her survival, but it won't insure soft treatment.
     
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  28. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

    That's already happened. I've read some WNBA players complain about Brittney being forced to go over there to earn a living. So you know, US misogyny and racism is the reason.
     
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  29. bystander

    bystander 10,000+ Posts

    One more comment. I have a daughter but accept the reality that women's sports are not the best. They offer entertainment to a certain degree for sports fans and of course those who love them. But I don't spend money on women's sports. I'm sorry about that. I also don't spend money on men's curling. These things are a matter of choice and when I spend money on sports (noting the high ticket prices) then I want to see the best.
     
  30. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    Griner can't play in the WNBA?
     

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