2022 House and Senate election

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by mchammer, Dec 8, 2021.

  1. Crockett

    Crockett 5,000+ Posts

    I've read posts on this board disparaging the intelligence of Sheila Jackson Lee that didn't seem racist or unfair. I don't think the D after your name or color of your skin create immunity from being considered to have unexceptional intelligence. Mr. Obama and Mr. Walker may have similar skin tones, but their ability to sound competent and intelligent on television are at variance. "Racist" is a term tossed around too loosely. When logic fails, name calling can be a persuasive rhetorical device to an unsophisticated audience.I remember a recent Presidential candidate who seemed to profit by attaching disparaging labels on his opponents.
     
  2. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    I think the seat was forfeited when the GOP nominated Doug Mastriano for governor. The dude lost by about 15 points. Furthermore, he was toxic and massively dragged the entire ticket down. They also got their asses kicked in the state legislative elections. Toomey may have survived had he sought reelection, but I don't think any Republican would have won it as an open seat.

    What's really sad is that we organized our shittiness in a perfect position for losing. Oz was bad, but he wasn't as weird as Boulduc or Masters and wasn't a sawed-off Wilt Chamberlain with an army division of illegitimate children. If he had somehow run in Georgia (or perhaps even Arizona), he would have won. Only a totally catastrophic candidate could lose that race in Georgia in a midterm election in a red-leaning state with a popular Republican governor winning an easy reelection.
     
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  3. UTChE96

    UTChE96 2,500+ Posts

    Way too much overthinking here. Walker was a terrible candidate. He was not articulate. He had multiple skeletons in his closet. He continually admitted that he was "not that smart" - WTF! As far as I can tell, Walker's only qualifications were being a really good running back and Trump's support. Next time around I suggest we focus on nominating intelligent candidates who do not have multiple scandals in their past.
     
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  4. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    You know what I am talking about. Not what posters on HF say. I am talking about the media and the left that drives everything. Can anyone out there criticize Obama or Lee and not be labeled by the media as racist?

    I have no idea what kind of candidate Walker was. Seem to be a lot experts on that here. But, the media doesn't defend this black person as they would if he ran as a Democrat.

    Anyone arguing that is lying.

    And, invoking what Trump did here is not the point. Although, it helps my point. The media criticized him for doing that. They had no problem with Madonna's dream of blowing up the WH, DeNiro's constant maniacal rants with physical threats, and on and on.
     
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  5. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    And once Jerry traded him to Minnesota, he wasn't even that great of a running back.
     
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  6. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    Now you're going to talk football?

    :coolnana:
     
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  7. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    I think if DeSantis runs in 2024 we can overcome much of our congressional leadership problems and take it. He is a big improvement over Trump. That's something Deez and I can agree with. :)
     
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  8. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Actually, I looked at his stats, and my characterization of him isn't totally fair. His yards per carry stayed about the same, even if he wasn't as durable and therefore didn't get the carries. I also remember him being a good kick returner when he came back to Dallas. I wouldn't undo the trade, but he wasn't a bad player for Minnesota or Philadelphia.
     
  9. Crockett

    Crockett 5,000+ Posts

    We ex
    But his trade value helped Jerry and Jimmy build a 3 time NFL champion roster!
     
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  10. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    At the time of the trade, he was one of the top running backs in the game. Great player, but considering that we got Emmitt Smith, Kevin Smith, Russell Maryland, Darren Woodson, and others from the deal, it was a massive ripoff of the Vikings.
     
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  11. Horns11

    Horns11 10,000+ Posts

    He was coming off a good season, but at the time of the trade, he was only getting 3.0 ypc behind that porous line. He wasn't worth 10% of what the Cowboys got out of the deal.

    I remember one of my teachers had such a crush on him. She'd put up newspaper articles on the wall about his ballet exploits and charitable things. Didn't keep up with her by the time he got traded. She might have been put on "unalived" watch.
     
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  12. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Kyrsten Sinema becomes an independent. Link. Never thought I'd see this happen. When she first entered politics, she was a total crackpot. She ran as a moderate independent for Senate. I thought she was lying like most of Democrats who run as moderates. She was the rare honest politician.
     
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  13. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    You have to wonder if McConnell was aware of this before the midterms since he seemed so sanguine about the senate races. Also, I think he knows that Manchin is about done with his party too. That makes it 51-49 GOP for the key legislation.
     
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  14. UTChE96

    UTChE96 2,500+ Posts

    So who will Sinema caucus with? I suspect still with the Dems.
     
  15. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    She says no caucus with anyone. She actually prefers to hang out with the GOP members on the senate floor. She is apparently repulsed by the ******** from the other side.
     
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  16. BrntOrngStmpeDe

    BrntOrngStmpeDe 1,000+ Posts

    It was a pretty safe bet she was going to have a hotly contested primary for Dem next time anyway. might as well get out in front and try to build the independent brand. she's obviously not comfortable with the lunacy of the left and she was going to have to go all in on lunacy to avoid a nasty primary.
     
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  17. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    Ew. So weird. Thank God for Cocaine Mitch's gate keeping. :smile1:

     
  18. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    It's just remarkable that she started as a left wing activist, and now she is well to the right of her party to such an extent that she can't function in it anymore. It says a lot about her and a lot about the Party. I suspect that BOSDe is right. She has had a target on her back since she got in the Senate, and by '24, the activist class will be ready to primary her. She must fear that she won't survive. She can't switch fully. She's way too liberal for the GOP (especially for Arizona GOP primary voters), but she's not willing to go full-wing nut for the Democrats either.

    That leaves her out in the cold with nowhere to go. Sad. My guess is that she leaves the Senate in '24. Whether her seat flips will depend on whom the GOP nominates (as usual), and if a Republican wins the White House, I could see her getting a gig in the cabinet.
     
  19. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    Kari Lake's lawsuit in regards to the 2022 election. Even a sworn statement from a cyber expert who says the breakdown of the machines on election day could not have occurred absent intentional misconduct.


     
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  20. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    If your opponent doesn't obey the rules should you? What if your life is in the balance?
     
  21. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    There will be some even on here who say it did not happen
    OR it did not affect any races
     
  22. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Personally, I'm reserving judgment on the matter. Even if I think Lake and Masters were crappy candidates who shouldn't have been our nominees, the calamity in Maricopa County is cause for real concern and a legitimate reason to call the election into question, and I'm willing to see what's presented in court. Same standard I applied in the Trump election contests and "Kraken lawsuits."

    I'm not sure what the remedy would be. They can't declare a winner, because we can't know for sure how people would have voted? A redo election? Maybe, but I'm not sure how that would be handled. Would it be for the entire state or just Maricopa County? Hard to say.
     
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  23. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    New Gen-Z congressman-elect can't find an apartment in DC because his credit sucks. Link.
     
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  24. BrntOrngStmpeDe

    BrntOrngStmpeDe 1,000+ Posts

    uber drivers and bartenders. good thing we are going deep into our pool of experts to send to Congress. "Idiocracy". We are watching it play out in real time.
     
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  25. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    This guy could be full of crap on this, but he isn't wrong when he says the media would have freaked out had they known he gave to Republicans.

     
  26. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    So SBF gave 40 million to Republicans? Has that been verified?
     
  27. Monahorns

    Monahorns 5,000+ Posts

    I don't think SBF gave as much to Rs and Ds. I think he gave as much to select R politicians as he did to select D politicians. Probably McCarthy/McConnell types.
     
  28. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    I have no idea what the truth is, but I think his comment says a lot whether it's true or not. If it's not true, then he's a partisan hack ripping off money on behalf of liberal politicians. If it is true, then it shows what partisan hacks the media is and how it's basically accepted among insiders. Frankly, both possibilities are plausible.
     
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  29. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    I saw an interview on CNBC on Kevin O’Leary. As a spokesman, he was paid $15 million. When asked if he did due diligence on the company, he really couldn’t answer. I think the celebrity spokespeople better get ready for some huge lawsuits.
     
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  30. Horn2RunAgain

    Horn2RunAgain 2,500+ Posts

    I saw that last week also. Joe K and Becky hit him fairly good after the warm up. OLeary was complaining how he got hurt financially in the deal, they pressed him if he lost any of his $ or just part of the 15 million he was given to begin with

    He didn't lose a dime of his own cash yet came on with the intent of looking like he'd been robbed. Good job by Joe and Becky. I've never been fond of OLeary
     
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