Penn State should end their football program

Discussion in 'On The Field' started by veggieboy, Nov 10, 2011.

  1. veggieboy

    veggieboy 500+ Posts

    The PSU football program should just go “dark” for a couple years, or until the legal issues regarding Sandusky/Paterno/et al can be sorted out.

    Think about it. It doesn’t matter who they get to coach there, that coach will be behind the 8 ball from the get go. The fans care enough about “JoePa” that they are rioting despite him being a piece of filth that let a child rapist run rampant, and have free reign, over his athletic department. Those fans will take a long time to get behind any coach from the “outside”.

    How, too, does any coach sit in a recruit's living room, and tell that kid’s mom that Penn State University will take care of her son? They can’t.

    This program is done. For a LOOOOOOONG time. It would be best for them to just end it for now, and rebuild from the floor up, once all the trash, and corruption, and filth has been washed away…
     
  2. Dovey317

    Dovey317 250+ Posts

  3. Hu_Fan

    Hu_Fan Guest

    Wonder if the SEC will take them!

    Actually heard talk on ESPN Wednesday that the Big Ten may want to jettison them. Read a wild blog report about the irony of Penn State being in the Leaders
    Division.

    it's up to Nebraska, Ohio State and Wisconsin to lead them to 0-3 finish and not let them represent a spot in the conference's first title game.
     
  4. Clean

    Clean 5,000+ Posts

    End the whole football program? Do you always over react this much?
     
  5. agssuk

    agssuk 1,000+ Posts

    Oh Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  6. stanhin

    stanhin 5,000+ Posts

    Lighten up, Francis.
     
  7. rickysrun

    rickysrun 2,500+ Posts

    veggieboy should end his posts' program
     
  8. westexas

    westexas 250+ Posts

    I was thinking the same thing last night. I'm pretty sure it wont happen but if I was on the the BOT, I would certainly suggest it.
     
  9. Mesohorny

    Mesohorny 1,000+ Posts

    Other than ending their program, I agree with your points.
     
  10. bmoore15

    bmoore15 100+ Posts

    I don't think you end the whole program but another way to rebuild from the ground up is to just let all current coaches and staff go and hire new people.
     
  11. Rex Kramer

    Rex Kramer 1,000+ Posts

    The program is largely ended anyway. This will do to PSU what the death penalty did to SMU whether the NCAA acts or not. No recruit will want to play there and no coach will want to be there. They may not go 0-12 and be irrelevant for 20 years, but idont think they will be relevant for 5 years or so.

    I do think they ought to cancel the rest of the season. Canceling the program is kinda harsh.
     
  12. rickysrun

    rickysrun 2,500+ Posts


     
  13. Horns11

    Horns11 10,000+ Posts

    "No recruit will want to play there and no coach will want to be there."

    Load of crap. There's no causality between a 3rd-party camp and a child molester (which no longer has any affiliation with PSU) and gaps in recruiting/coaching. If anything, I think it'll only weed out the recruits who were on the fence about committing to Penn State. And it'll force anyone who coaches (or wants to coach) there to consider the big picture more clearly.

    I think PSU rebounds well from this once the whole staff and mentality shift over. We don't know if it's truly one of "the best coaching gigs in the country" because there's never been any turnover there. But I think we'll find out that it'll shift pretty easily once people start calling about playing in the B1G in front of 100K+ people in Happy Valley, with the iconic uniforms and unparalleled support.

    I'll agree that in the short term, it'll hurt. I bet they might not win again this season. But a new attitude will be forged pretty quickly... maybe even Spring practices with a new staff in place.
     
  14. ptownhorn

    ptownhorn 1,000+ Posts

    i agree w/ veggieboy. if you give the death penalty to SMU for paying players, you gotta give death penalty for coaches/presidents, etc turning there back to child rape.

    CHILD RAPE a grown mans penis inserted in a little boys ANUS. DO YOU GET IT?????

    only thing worse is murder.

    death penalty
     
  15. rickysrun

    rickysrun 2,500+ Posts

    PTOWN, we all get it, there's no need to put it in caps and have us read those disgusting words again. This is a criminal act, and those guilty of the act(s), those guilty of turning a blind eye or not contacting the authorities should go to prison for a long long time. Sandusky and others are guilty of crimes against humanity, SMU cheated at sports.
     
  16. dillohorn

    dillohorn Guest

    Amazing ( or maybe not ) that these students just don't get it. They just don't get it.
     
  17. TEXnSEATTLE

    TEXnSEATTLE 1,000+ Posts

    BURN THE PLACE TO THE GROUND!!!




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  18. Horns11

    Horns11 10,000+ Posts

    "This is a criminal act, and those guilty of the act(s), those guilty of turning a blind eye or not contacting the authorities should go to prison for a long long time"

    Of course. And this has to do with cancelling the football program....?
     
  19. danthehorn

    danthehorn 250+ Posts


     
  20. Rex Kramer

    Rex Kramer 1,000+ Posts


     
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    ptownhorn 1,000+ Posts


     
  22. texas_ex2000

    texas_ex2000 2,500+ Posts

    The football program and the University likely committed several federal crimes. The Department of Education is investigating:
    Department of Educaiton Investigating PSU



     
  23. Knoxville-Horn

    Knoxville-Horn 1,000+ Posts

    I don't think you go that route if, for no other reason, than thousands of people would be adversely affected. The house needs to be cleaned but lets try not to screw over many in and around Happy Valley that rely on the program for economic reasons.
     
  24. rickysrun

    rickysrun 2,500+ Posts


     
  25. texas_ex2000

    texas_ex2000 2,500+ Posts


     
  26. ptownhorn

    ptownhorn 1,000+ Posts


     
  27. texas_ex2000

    texas_ex2000 2,500+ Posts

    Ricky,

    Also think about this. The President/AD/HC/and GA-Recruiting Coordinator acted (or not-acted) in the fashion they did in large part to protect the PSU brand and reputation. Why? Because this small community worshiped them...enabled them.

    I'm not saying the community is at fault. They are not and they just love their football team and understandably so. But it became an unhealthy fixation. Don't think about it as punishing the community. Playing next year with all of this still in the courts would almost be unseemingly and out of touch with real priorities. Shutting down the program gives them a year or two to reflect and rethink and take a deep breadth.
     
  28. Rex Kramer

    Rex Kramer 1,000+ Posts

    My stance is that the players are secondary to the primary concern, which ought to be the victims and their families. Actually the players are a tertiary concern, with the secondary concern being damage control and attempting to repair PSU's image. You cannot do that playing football this Saturday or in the next few months. You cannot do it. Each game will be a slap in the face to the victims.

    I'm hearing rumors now that Sandusky was essentially fired in '99 because of this, and in exchange for this, PSU agreed not to go to authorities. In addition, the Second Mile charity or whatever it is termed, operated as a slush fund to pay players, and Paterno knew this, and wanted to keep it up and running. I have no links. This is all speculation.
     
  29. texas_ex2000

    texas_ex2000 2,500+ Posts

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    stanhin 5,000+ Posts


     

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