Mike McQueary will coach on Saturday

Discussion in 'On The Field' started by Texas___Fight, Nov 10, 2011.

  1. Gasman

    Gasman 25+ Posts

    '03 Texas Grad, I think the reason he should not be on the sidelines or in the coaches box upstairs is because he put his own career/future ahead of the well-being of a 10 year old child. That being said, I think the likelihood of someone jumping the field and attacking him is pretty high. I imagine the Penn State security is aware. Would recommend attacking individuals go in large waves of people. Someone is bound to get through.....
     
  2. OrangeChipper

    OrangeChipper 1,000+ Posts

    Any of ya'll seen "a few good men?"

    Mcqueery is like Dawson or Downey. He got an order and followed it. He was a football player under Paterno. You do not... in any circumstance usurp the authority of your coach. Its the code, dude. It doesn't in any way make what he did right. But the buck does NOT stop at the GA. It stops at the head coach.

    The head coach bears more responsibility because who he says stays, stays. Who he says goes, goes.

    JoePa knowing of the '98 incident AND the 02 incident STILL allowed Sandusky on campus and on the sidelines repeatedly as recently as 07 according to reports.
     
  3. Gasman

    Gasman 25+ Posts

    OC, I understand your analogy, however, there were no "good men" involved in this situation.
     
  4. Texanne

    Texanne 5,000+ Posts

    McQueary should have stopped the rape, then told the boy to put his clothes on and wait for him out in the locker room.

    Then he should have told Sandusky to lie face down in the shower and not move. "I'm going to get something to tie you up and then I'm calling the police. And if you move, I will find you and I will kill you dead."
     
  5. Texas___Fight

    Texas___Fight 2,500+ Posts


     
  6. 2003TexasGrad

    2003TexasGrad Son of a Motherless Goat

    Gasman,

    I dont know if he was thinking about his career or not, but he certainly failed as a human, a 6'4 man no less, in stopping what was happening to the child. How he could just walk out without stopping it is bad enough.
     
  7. Bigtex112

    Bigtex112 500+ Posts


     
  8. TigerPride

    TigerPride 1,000+ Posts

    Bigtex and I think alike......anything up to and including homicide to stop the attack.
     
  9. I_Dont_Exist

    I_Dont_Exist 1,000+ Posts

    For an institute of higher learning looking to rehabilitate their image this is the epitome of poor judgment. McQueary should have been fired along with Paterno. Everything done in the last few days reeks of amateur-hour.
     
  10. Mesohorny

    Mesohorny 1,000+ Posts

    he won't be at the game now per ESPN
     
  11. l00p

    l00p 10,000+ Posts

    If so, smart decision. One of the few.
     
  12. WorsterMan

    WorsterMan SEC here we come!!

    wrong on so many levels... the Bored of Trustees must think he is protected somehow - whistle blower or otherwise to have not thrown him under the bus with joe and the prez.
     
  13. Statalyzer

    Statalyzer 10,000+ Posts


     
  14. OrangeChipper

    OrangeChipper 1,000+ Posts

    Look...

    No human beings first reaction is to call home or call their coach unless that has been pounded into them.

    This is not a Mike Mcqueary issue. Otherwise he WOULD be gone.

    This is a Penn State Culture issue.

    You see that and your first instinct is to... CALL YOUR DAD??

    You are the head coach... and your first instinct is to.... SLEEP ON IT FOR TWO DAYS AND THEN CALL THE AD???

    The AD wait 10 days... and then CALL A MEETING with Mike??

    If you've never been in the military or a member of a football team, you're just not gonna understand. The head coach is the boss. You follow orders. Nothing happens without them knowing about it first.

    Paterno was not only Mcqueary's boss. He was also his former coach and idol.

    Mcqueary's actions were a symptom of a larger problem. Not the problem itself. Otherwise, why in the hell is he still around. There's more to this than you know.
     
  15. Texas___Fight

    Texas___Fight 2,500+ Posts


     
  16. OrangeChipper

    OrangeChipper 1,000+ Posts

    What part of the timeline am i missing?

    Searching...

    Ok.. so he was told first thing in the morning and didn't report anything until the next day.

    My cynical speculation is that he called all kinds of people to cover things up... But according to his testimony, he didn't tell a soul until the next day.

    Let me clarify my point. McQueary is culpable. He screwed up badly. I just don't think he is AS culpable as Paterno.

    For you guys out there that think JoePa is really that senile that he had no idea about the '98 incident or had heard no rumors for the 30!!! years that Sandusky was the d-coordinator are obscenely naive.

    Its Paterno that set the tone for the culture at PSU. Its Paterno that knew about the 98 incident and after knowing about the 02 incident STILL allowed Sandusky on the sidelines and involved in the goings on of the team on several occasions. According to several former players from the mid 2000's, they just assumed Sandusky was still employed because he was seen so regularly in the locker-rooms.

    All the university did. (with Paterno's blessing) was take away the keys to his locker-room. And disallow him from having kids with him. REALLY? Paterno had to have signed off on that. Paterno is the one with the real power.

    Yes McQueary screwed up bad.... But lets not obfuscate this and say that he handled it worse than Paterno... Paterno had the power and authority to affect changes much more than little Mike
     
  17. 88aero

    88aero 250+ Posts

    What are the chances McQueary was a recruit of Sanduskys?
     
  18. I_Dont_Exist

    I_Dont_Exist 1,000+ Posts

    McQueary placed on administrative leave. Yet another half-*** measure. He may not be prosecuted due to being the key witness against Sandusky but he can do that without being on the staff. My understanding is most college assistant coaches operate on one-year contracts. Seems to me it's a case of choosing not to rehire him as much as firing his ***. He has no right to be retained by the new coach.

    The Link
     
  19. 88aero

    88aero 250+ Posts

    I am in no way defending McQueary, but I wonder what the chances are that when he was a boy, Sandusky had access to him? That would be a fear factor in his not doing more...
     
  20. Mesohorny

    Mesohorny 1,000+ Posts

    ESPN reporting McQueary told the PSU team today, "I'm not your coach anymore. I'm done."

    Is reportedly hiding out in protective custody after receiving several threats.
     
  21. WorsterMan

    WorsterMan SEC here we come!!

    McQuery is in a odd situation. He is in the middle of this whole saga. PSU may not have fired him when they did the others because of some whislte blower law that protected him and beaause keeping him on the payroll would continue to buy some level of loyalty to not hurt or limit the hurt to his alma mater.

    If PSU throws him under the bus and fires him - the DA and prosectution takes him and makes him the key witness that will expose and potentially bring down the defense of PSU and Joe Pa. Costing the university and some of the individuals 100's of millions in $$$.
     
  22. TEXnSEATTLE

    TEXnSEATTLE 1,000+ Posts

    Worster...I agree, McQuery is a pivotal character in all this and he can really upset all at PSU....but, he must realize he will never coach on a college campus again...I don't think. He's damaged goods.

    I still can't imagine seeing all this and then finish putting on your shoes and walking away from that poor 10 year old. [​IMG]
     
  23. Bigtex112

    Bigtex112 500+ Posts

    10 years old....think about that for a minute. Makes me want to puke. Jerry Sandusky is headed straight for a date with a bunch of people in the Federal Pen who will probably kill him for what he has done to those kids. I just hope along the way he gets some of the same treatment that he dealt out.
     
  24. Texas___Fight

    Texas___Fight 2,500+ Posts

    The part that angers me is that it took death threats and the police putting him (McQueary) under protective custody for the administration to put him on administrative leave.
     
  25. Third Coast

    Third Coast 10,000+ Posts

    I don't know much about Mike McQueary and I wouldn't judge him if I did, but I said from the beginning that everyone connected with this had to go. This was something that PSU should have done when Paterno was fired.

    I believe he could get an opportunity to coach again at the college level, but it will be far way from Happy Valley.
     
  26. TEXnSEATTLE

    TEXnSEATTLE 1,000+ Posts

    THIRD COAST...if you don't mind my asking...what is your age? and what is with the " I would not judge "??? why is that? and what would it take? I hear people say that and it baffles me as to WHERE THE HELL are they coming from?
     

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