77 and 0, or what RB has meant to UT hoops

Discussion in 'Classics' started by Bob in Houston, Mar 8, 2007.

  1. Bob in Houston

    Bob in Houston 2,500+ Posts

    This is a little bit nerdy, and perhaps overestimating, but interesting to me, anyway.

    Everyone knows that Rick Barnes has the best record of any hoops coach at UT.

    It's notable that he's won more games in nine years, 213, than his predecessor, Tom Penders, could win in 10. The UT media notes chronicle how Barnes' teams have done in total wins compared to the previous best eras in UT history, and Barnes now has the top three in just about all of them.

    But, just for the heck of it, I've also kept track of the losses.
    Now this stat may seem superficially obvious, but Barnes not only has won more, he also has lost less.

    How much less?
    Assuming that UT does not win the B12 tournament or the NCAA tournament, Barnes will finish his ninth season with 86 losses.

    To find the last nine-year period in which Texas lost as few as 86 games, you have to go back to 1968. By comparison, those UT teams won 136 games in that period. So Barnes has gone the equivalent of 77-0 as the schedules have been increased over the years.

    Another piece of raw data:
    In the '80s, basically the end of the Lemons era, and the basketball wasteland that were the Weltlich years, Texas won 152 games. In the '90s, all Penders except for '99, Texas won 202.

    Barnes is averaging almost 24 wins a year, and his schedules, until the last couple of years, anyway, have been tougher than any the school has ever had.

    This really is a golden era for UT hoops.

    One other brief comparison.
    What has the development of a national recruiting profile meant?

    I've looked at the records over the Barnes' nine years, and conveniently dropped out the FF season, which right now is the midpoint of the nine seasons.

    In the first four years, Barnes's teams had a 90-43 record.
    In the first four post-TJ years, UT has a record of 97-34, with the potential for a few more.

    What do I think this means? Well, being able to convince guys such as Durant and Augustin, as well as Aldridge and Gibson, appears to have meant, at a minimum, a couple of wins a year.

    This does not take into consideration that Barnes probably has done his best coaching job over the course of a season in this season, getting this team to 22 wins.

    If Barnes stays for the long term, I think we are just about at the point where UT basketball can think in terms of 25-win seasons, rather than 20-win seasons.
     
  2. UofTOrange

    UofTOrange 250+ Posts

    [​IMG] to Rick Barnes
     
  3. stockjock

    stockjock 250+ Posts

    Great post, Bob. I really think we have a basketball championship in our near future. Who would have thought that 20 years ago?
     
  4. Bob in Houston

    Bob in Houston 2,500+ Posts

    One other point...

    Let's say UT wins the B12 tournament. That would reduce the loss total to 85.

    The last time UT lost as few as 85 games in nine years ended in 1955.
     
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  5. Dirty Martin

    Dirty Martin 500+ Posts

    Great post Bob. Could you please forward it to Tim Cowlishaw at the DMN?
     
  6. 4realhorn

    4realhorn 500+ Posts

    Great post Bob. It really puts things into perspective. You should forward this to your buddy Colishaw.
     
  7. cochamps

    cochamps 2,500+ Posts

    I was wondering how you wer going to tie RB into ou's pasting of aggy in football. [​IMG]
     
  8. orangeblack&gold

    orangeblack&gold 500+ Posts

    Thank you, Bob.

    Thank you again, Coach.
     
  9. Texoz

    Texoz 1,000+ Posts

    Nice post. Barnes is a great coach.

    I was hoping this season might be the one where UT fans step up. I sensed a new enthusiasm, but we still need to give more support to this coach and this team.

    I know the odds are slim to none, but if KD came back I think a new era in UT basketball might finally arrive. However, if KD leaves, but Barnes stays for many more years, I think that eventually we'll show up for those earlier games and we'll be a Top 5 school in terms of fan enthusiasm.
     
  10. DKR777

    DKR777 250+ Posts

    but ... but ... but ... Kevin Durant isn't averaging 50 points a game. And it's Barnes' fault [/sportsguy]
     
  11. Chest Rockwell

    Chest Rockwell 1,000+ Posts

    I wouldn't trade our coaches in the big 3 sports (Mack, Barnes, Augie) for any other school's.
     
  12. Bigtex112

    Bigtex112 500+ Posts

    We still suck at in-bounding the ball.... [​IMG]
     
  13. VYFan

    VYFan 2,500+ Posts

    I really appreciate Rick Barnes. He also seems to be a very nice man. It's interesting that our post-TJ years are even stronger than the ones before. It's also worth saying that our style of playing has been completely different in different years, depending on personnel.

    I would also mention Eddie Reese when you list the UT coaches.
     
  14. coolhorn

    coolhorn 2,500+ Posts

    Don't let Cowlishaw see this, or he'll claim Barnes can't really be all that, since a real basketball coach wouldn't have lost the 85 games in a decade you mention. Barnes must have whizzed in Cowlishaw's Wheaties sometime back.
     
  15. Smoky Brisket

    Smoky Brisket 100+ Posts

    I thought this was about A&M @ OU
     
  16. Horn69

    Horn69 2,500+ Posts

    cool analysis. the great thing about Barnes (and Mack and Augie) is that every sesason we know there is potential for the Horns to be a major player in the national picture.

    [​IMG] Rick Barnes [​IMG]
     
  17. old65horn

    old65horn 1,000+ Posts

    Great post BIH. You could also say he was competing against coaches from the old SWC era, where basketball wasn't really played until the UofH entered the conference.
     

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