WOW...Worst info regarding PSU scandal EVER

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  1. TEXnSEATTLE

    TEXnSEATTLE 1,000+ Posts

  2. nra1775

    nra1775 250+ Posts

    Crazy...

    The more I read the more I hope PSU gets from the NCAA. I should also think that the federal govt. also needs to get involved since the state law enforcement doesn't seem to want to do anything.
     
  3. l00p

    l00p 10,000+ Posts

  4. Hu_Fan

    Hu_Fan Guest

    I always read dates on articles just from habit. That one says June 22... should it be July 22 and just a typo? Did that information come via the Freeh investigation? Meaning, is that material out there and well known by now, since the Freeh report?
    Just read the part below the middle of the page past where the ads end on the right hand side... I won't bother to put it here.

    I'm now thinking... like those movies that have twists that follow twists, and you finally get to the unraveled part and it's not even about the thing that was first unraveled, but something wider and deeper. Will turn out very bizzare if Paterno did not act out of being consumed with power, but more as being in line with things far outside him. Because really a question has been why would he not have done more?

    A question now then is why aren't those in position to do more, doing more in line with what's being talked about in that American Free Press piece? This feels like those movies where the whole inside is in on everything and you're the guy on the pay phone and they're telling you they'll "come get you and bring you in safely, just stay where you are, we'll come get you." Then the Tom Cruise character in Knight & Day says things like, "They'll tell you they'll take you somewhere safe. Don't trust anybody. Don't get in the car."

    Where does this thing go to get fully investigated by those fully outside and able to exert the power to do something about all of it? Is the whole damn state of Pennsylvania in on this? How far up, and how far out, does it go?

    The question that should be asked of everybody is "why did you not do more than you did?" And beg the question with the notion, the premise, that anybody would have done more if it weren't for _______ " something outside of them, and keep following the trail until you get to "so that's why..."
    because there isn't another question to be asked. You're there.

    Where's Lisbeth Salander when you need her.

    Are there no smart people on campus? Where's the movie script in all this, where a bunch of kids are figuring everything out, like in Transformers. Where's that blonde with the British accent tells the head of the State Dept that it would take all the computers in the world ten years to solve some algorithm this 'whatever it is' had just done. Or the kid in his grandma's basement that can break codes. Or 'Plague' in Girl With the Dragon Tattoo. Aren't there any of those on campus at Penn State doing investigations and 'getting to the bottom' of things?

    Where are you Lisbeth Salander?
     
  5. Crockett

    Crockett 5,000+ Posts

    That stuff seems so incredible that it's hard to believe it credible. Yet Second Mile and Penn State allowed Sandusky to keep molesting little boys with peple in the know having all the information they needed to know exactly what was happening ... there's just no credible explanation for such horrific behavior. The fact that Joe Pa was in his late seventies and early eighties functioning in a job that would overwhelm younger men and top university officials were less powerful than he seemed to be the route this was going. Now maybe actually the University President knew more than Jo Pa and had a history of being sympathetic to child molesters ...
     
  6. freyguy

    freyguy 250+ Posts

    This is a bomb that will keep exploding and exploding. Another big boom today with the NCAA sanctions. Just wait until the criminal investigations start taking hold, and then the civil suits afterwards. We'll be reading about newly revealed info like this for the next couple of years.
     
  7. TEXnSEATTLE

    TEXnSEATTLE 1,000+ Posts

    I sent this article and he said that when there was an investigation into the Catholic Church a few years ago in San Antonio (I believe) that there was a "ring" of pedophiles that were exposed that included bankers, and other prominent people in the community.

    This stuff is absolutely unbelievable to me....

    I did hear something about a bunch of Penn State alums having the kids of Second Mile passed around amongst them when all this broke in November....I guess this article speaks to that....
     
  8. WorsterMan

    WorsterMan SEC here we come!!

    OMG! [​IMG] If true, this thing goes far deeper than just Sandusky. I wonder if the investigations / prosecutors will dig deep to go into all of this as part of the civil & criminal suits or call off the hunt after they finish with PSU? I am not a lawyer so I don't know how this works or how far they will go outside of the original clients - these boys and their families.

    I previously posted on another thread that I thought the DA, Gricar was killed by the Mob. After reading this article and considering the "tap on the shoulder" and silence gotten from reporter Mark Madden reference... I now suspect there may be protectors / hit men of this hidden child abuse network that possibly killed Gricar.

    This could get far more UGLY! [​IMG]
     
  9. coolhorn

    coolhorn 2,500+ Posts

    It's gonna be a bumpy ride before the entirety of Jerry Sandusky's crimes, and the complicity by inaction of Penn State's administrators is fully known. I've got a strong hunch that there were many more young victims than were brought out in Sandusky's trial, and there have been rumors and allegations of more wide-spread child sexual abuse involved.

    There is also something else bothering me that hasn't been discussed widely. The Penn State administrators, by the nature of their positions, had to know what would happen if they were caught covering up Sandusky's crimes. I've seen nothing, anywhere, to indicate why Spanier, Curley, and especially Paterno, would decide to ignore Sandusky's serial rape of young boys, and cover the crimes up. Until that is known, the investigation should be far from over.
     
  10. 1leggedduck

    1leggedduck 1,000+ Posts

    So the implication of the article is that rich pedos made donations to Sandusky's pet non profit little boy pimp shop, he pimped the boys out to the donators, and a lot of that money was used to buy the kind of political favor that can keep a pedo out of jail for years while he continues being a sick f**k begging for a bullet to the brain. If any part of that is true, then this is way beyond the PSU ath. dep't and even beyond PSU. It is a lot to try and wrap your mind around.
     
  11. Bevo Incognito

    Bevo Incognito 5,000+ Posts

    Trying not to go with an ad hominem attack here, but the author has such titles as "The New World Order Exposed" and "9-11 EVIL: Israel's Central Role in the September 11, 2001 Terrorist Attacks " and "The Holocaust Exposed" blah blah blah in his literary cannon:



    The Link
     
  12. SyracuseHorn

    SyracuseHorn 500+ Posts

    There may well be more to the story than we've seen so far, but let's wait for evidence to come to light before we jump to unsupported conclusions.
     
  13. huisache

    huisache 2,500+ Posts

    Victor Thorn also penned exposes of the Clinton's killing rampages, their lives as drug dealers and what appears to be a conspiracy hatched at Jesus's Last Supper.

    I am so glad to know I read the Penn State article before I knew his pedigree. I wonder if he has looked into the conspiracy in which Jackie Kennedy had JFK offed so she could hook up with Englebert Humperdink.

    The PSU mess is sordid enough without kinky guys like this wallowing around in it.
     
  14. WestGAHorn

    WestGAHorn 500+ Posts

    Found the below on the attorneygeneral.gov site regarding the Sandusky. Based on what was presented, it doesn't sound like that article is as far fetched as it seems. It's definitely not for the weak of stomach and reading it will definitely piss you off. Could it be they're just beginning to scratch the surface? Unfortunately i have a feeling there's a good bit more to this that's going to come out.

    Sandusky Grand Jury

    [​IMG]
     
  15. gecko

    gecko 2,500+ Posts


     
  16. 1leggedduck

    1leggedduck 1,000+ Posts

    I'm a little less freaked out now. I didn't know this guy was an "inside job" sort of "journalist." Still, the fact remains that at every opportunity to stop a monster, they instead opted to protect their university. How can people claiming to be educators justify that kind of thinking?
     
  17. HammerOfTheHorns

    HammerOfTheHorns 100+ Posts

    Did Spanier really get a government job right after leaving PSU in disgrace? That alone is puzzling. The possibility of larger forces at work would also help explain the inexplicable (why Schulz, Spanier, and Paterno engaged in the coverup and then allowed Sandusky to gallivant about at leisure.)

    Having said all that, it seems wise to view all of this with a very skeptical eye.
     
  18. TEXnSEATTLE

    TEXnSEATTLE 1,000+ Posts

    The Link


    this tells you all about Spanier and his new government job.... [​IMG]
     
  19. Dogbert

    Dogbert 500+ Posts

    Hmmm. The link doesn't tell me all about Spanier and his new job. It just says he's working on helping coordinate "national security" for federal government agencies. Might be working handling luggage at the airport or on a phone bank somewhere.
     
  20. TEXnSEATTLE

    TEXnSEATTLE 1,000+ Posts

    The Link

    Spanier's letter to the Board of Trustees...
     
  21. nra1775

    nra1775 250+ Posts

    While the whole sex ring conspiracy seems a bit reaching he makes some other very good points which I consider very damaging.

    Sandusky sitting in the president's box for Paterno's last game.

    Suppressing the Chambers document and only forwarding Seasock’s bogus distraction report to Gricar.

    And Spanier's personal beliefs/lifestyle make you wonder...
     
  22. 1leggedduck

    1leggedduck 1,000+ Posts

    It seems that what was actually seen may have been hedged a little with each retelling; that each time someone carried the news on to the next level, it got a little more dilluted, until it was just a grown man covorting naked in the showers with preteen boys. Like that's not a big deal or anything. There was an institutional desire to minimize what happened to protect the univesity. Spanier may have received the fully sanitized version, but even that version merits far more attention than it got. I have a hard time understanding how the PSUPD isn't just as guilty as anyone but Sandusky.
     
  23. westexas

    westexas 250+ Posts

    My question about this conspiracy theory is, where are the victims? There were eight vicitms of Sandusky. As far as we know, none of them were pimped out. Until someone comes forward with credible acusations of a crime, this is probably hog wash.
     
  24. H-D Rider

    H-D Rider 1,000+ Posts

    This whole thing is just sickening! [​IMG]
     
  25. Hu_Fan

    Hu_Fan Guest

    I've watched the Millennium series, Girl With the Dragon Tattoo, maybe 3-4 full viewings, all three parts. Stretches the imagination for such hidden things.
     
  26. nra1775

    nra1775 250+ Posts

    Well, maybe this isn't so far fetched after all....

    Link

    Federal officials have launched an investigation into a possible pedophile ring involving disgraced former Penn State defensive coordinator and convicted child molester Jerry Sandusky.

    According to RadarOnline, both the FBI and a criminal investigative division of the United States Postal Service are looking into allegations that Sandusky shared boys with other men connected to Penn State as part of a child sex ring.
     

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