If we win out.... KSU, Texas and OU would all have 2 losses. OU would win the conference. Why? Only one of their losses is within conference. TX and KSU would be tied for 2nd. Bowls would then be able to choose between us. Who is the bigger draw? Who will travel? Who will bring better TV ratings? All those are advantage TX. If i'm not mistaken, we still have to jump to 12 in the BCS standings. We are already at 15. No one behind us has much chance to jump us.(MAYBE UCLA) So we just need to jump 3 of Nebraska, Stanford, OU, Clemson, Florida State, South Carolina, A&M, LSU, Florida. Nebraska just has one game left. Against lowly iowa. CHECK. Stanford still has to play UCLA and maybe Pac 12 champ game Clemson still has to play South Carolina. ONE of those 2 lose and we jump them. CHECK Florida State still has to play Florida AND ACC champ game. We likely jump 2 loss FSU. Bottom line, we win out. we're in real good shape for BCS. Just have to jump the hurdles of TCU and KSU.
So we win out and OU loses to Okie Lite...what does that mean? OU still wins the conference because of head to head victory against us?
Nope. If OU loses to Okie Lite and we beat KSU, all four schools would have 2 losses in conference. Head to head against the three other schools would knock out OU and OSU as they would each be 1-2 against the others. That leaves Texas and KSU where head to head would be in favor of Texas and we win the conference. If I understand the tie breakers correctly.
If that happens, we will have won two games against teams with winning records!!!!!!! What is the scenario if OU beats the Cowboys and we beat TCU and lose to KSU And if UTSA beats TSU next week and finishes 8-4, do they go to a bowl game in their second season of existence and with only 55 scholarship athletes, or whatever the number is?
I actually had same thought as OP after seeing K-State lose, Texas wins out and likely gifts OU another Big XII title but at 10-2 should take the second BCS berth that the Big XII almost certainly gets, away from K-State. Amazing that we can even talk a BCS berth just weeks after bneeding a fourth down conversion to beat lowly KU but the reality is that Texas is in that conversation.
Wouldn't that be poetic justice? OU kicks our butt but we win the conference! That would also mean we would get a berth in the Fiesta Bowl, which is the crap BCS bowl.
watched Stanford/Oregon and UCLA/USC yesterday and one of them is going to be in the Alamo Bowl. I wanna go to that one. I know the SEC and Big 12 supposedly play a better game, but the west coast schools are lots of fun to watch and their fans aren't a bunch of stewed loonies like the crackers. Assuming the Big 12 gets two BCS games, the fourth team gets the Alamo. That is probably us. The PAC second team goes to SA and that will be UCLA or Stanford in all probability. Great game for us.
This thread is hilarious. Two weeks ago we were firing Mack and now we're going to make a BCS game. What's up with the Steeler's ugly bumble bee unis?
The Big 12 doesn't get two teams in the BCS unless KSU wins out and OU gets some serious sympathy as the last-or-next-to-last pick by a BCS bowl committee. If Texas is in a BCS game, it'll be because OU lost to OK State and we got the conference championship tiebreaker. And there wouldn't be a second Big 12 team joining us.
"If Texas is in a BCS game, it'll be because OU lost to OK State and we got the conference championship tiebreaker. And there wouldn't be a second Big 12 team joining us. " Serve me some of that.
Vol Horn, I for one still believe that Mack should step after the end of he season. A BCS appearance would be phenomenal and yes it should afford him the opportunity to stay for one more season. However, the fundamental reason to consider a coaching change remains. Good coaches with talented teams do not repeatedly get blown out by their chief rivals. I have no reason to believe that it could not happen yet again in 2013 or 2014. Top on my list: Jim Mora
There are 10 BCS berths. The Big East is getting one, Notre Dame is getting another. That leaves the five champions of the ACC, SEC, Big XII, Pac XII and B1G plus three more at larges and any one conference can only get two teams in. There are no non-auto qualifiers this year so it will be three second place teams. The B1G and Big East wont have a second place team that can qualify and that leaves second in SEC, second in ACC and second in Big XII getting those berths. Ergo, the Big XII will have two BCS qualifiers. Win out and Texas should get that second spot.
"That leaves the five champions of the ACC, SEC, Big XII, Pac XII and B1G plus three more at larges and any one conference can only get two teams in. There are no non-auto qualifiers this year so it will be three second place teams." Oregon, Clemson, and OU would be the choices ahead of us if you're only going by the second-place team scenario. Unless, of course, you're counting on Clemson losing to S. Car and OU losing to OK State, which is entirely possible. This would also be hastened if one of the three SEC teams in the Top 4 lost this weekend.
This post assumes we beat kstate. In that scenario ou is 1 and we'd be 2. kstate would then be well below us and ou in standings. They may not even be bcs eligible
Horns11 the scenario assumes we beat K-State and thus take their place as second to OU who get the auto berth.
Two potential wrinkles -- one negative and one positive: (a) If Boise State is the Moutain West champion and enough craziness happens, they could end up ranked in the top 16 and ahead of the Big East and/or Big Ten champs. In that event, Boise State would get an automatic bid, taking a second bid away from one of the AQ conferences. It would probably come down to Big XII or ACC, and I like our chances there -- but it wouldn't be automatic like one of the posts suggests. (b) Other than in the Boise State scenario, we wouldn't even have to get into the top 14. If we don't, the total number of BCS-eligible teams in the top 14 could be as low as 8 (Notre Dame; 2 each from the SEC and Pac 10; and 1 each from the Big XII, Big East, and ACC). In that event, the rules stipulate that teams 15 through 18 are next up, then 19 through 22, and so on until all 10 slots are filled. In other words, if only one team from the Big XII is in the top 14, that's okay so long as we end up in the same or higher cluster of 4 as either the second place team from the Big East or the second place team from the ACC. Or at least I think that's how it works....
I still want Mack gone. Perhaps he can say that we are back and he can step down this year? more likely he comes back for one more thinking we are near a National Championship run. I'm in the Gruden camp (I can dream, right?). ok, what about Gundy?
If Florida loses to FSU (likely), A&M also has a pretty good shot at a BCS Bowl. B12 Champ (OU) would be in the Fiesta Bowl and the SEC champ would be in the national title game. Rose Bowl would be filled with the Pac12 and Big10 champs. Orange probably gets ACC vs Big East. That would put A&M and Texas in the Sugar Bowl...