***Comparing one of the most legendary UT quarterbacks to one of the most annyoing A&M quarterbacks is sure to draw the ire of many HornFans, but here goes. It's the offseason, and it's an interesting question to ponder. Please don't shoot the brainstormer.*** I read an article earlier today that referred to Johnny Manziel's off-field antics as "Bobby Layne-esque" (Manziel's latest exploit was being sent home from one of Archie Manning's camps. Now, it's a safe bet we're mostly annoyed with Manziel, but Bobby Layne--one of the most beloved players in UT history--probably had many similar crazy exploits during his college years (my favorite is the story where Layne pitched a no-hitter for the baseball team while downing a six-pack-and-a-half of beer during the game). Layne had the benefit of no Twitter and no TMZ during his college years, so, if you sent Johnny Manziel back in time to play for A&M in the 1940s and brought Bobby Layne to present-day UT, would the two be seen the same way?
the head coach of my high school football team back in the 60s played with Layne at UT and was a louche douchebag himself. His son was a friend of mine and the stories he told of Layne were hilarious and grotesque. Manziel is a pale shadow of Layne. I would tell you the story about the hooker at the south congress hohouse but I wasn't there
If alcohol were the issue don't you think Chris mortensen of all people would have reported it? What does Chris have to gain? To that end what do the mannings have to gain by vehemently denying (according to the article) that alcohol was a factor The kid is no saint. He's immature and irresponsible. But sometimes even he deserves the benefit of the doubt.
Couldn't it be possible that Mortensen doesn't want to piss of the Mannings? If he pisses off the Mannings, isn't there a possibility that other people around the NFL would look down on him for that? And is it not possible that Manziel did have too much to drink the night before, but the Mannings don't want to publicly embarrass him? Maybe they feel that it is JF's own personal business what he does at night and were trying to keep this incident from going public. I'm not saying whether this is what happened or not, but you can't just throw away this possibility because you don't want to believe that he showed up late as a hungover *******. Regardless, I think he's an ******* either way for not showing up until noon.
Sure. Anything is possible. But at this point the "Johnny has lost control"narrative is going full steam. Espn spent a week on one of Johnny's tweets. Not sure why they'd pick now to protect him or save him from embarrassment.
It wouldn't be for Johnny's sake. It would be a move to not go against what the Manning's said in order to keep their respect and maintain access to players and teams that other reports/news outlets might not have.
Johnny hasn't lost control. Johnny is in full control because this has been Johnny his entire life. He's a full on ******* with a Heisman!
So the guy was in a bar Friday MORNING (!!!) and Friday night, missed most of the drills on Friday and showed up mid-day Saturday -- without ever calling anyone -- creating a chaotic situation for the Mannings and other counselors, who have to adjust on the fly and cover for the 12-16 campers Manziel was responsible for. And then after getting SENT HOME by Archie Manning, he hits the bars back in College Station, when he was supposedly "sick." What an idiot. Being invited to be a counselor to the Mannings football camp is an honor. If you make that commitment, live up to it. If you can't, don't go. I like the kid as a player, but he is clearly a first class a-hole that was not raised right. I don't care if you won the Heisman. If you tell someone (especially Archie Manning) you will be somewhere, you better be there. Someone will take a chance on him in the NFL. But given the 24/7 responsibilities of a modern day NFL QB, I think it is much more likely that he turns out like (party boy losers) Ryan Leaf and Todd Marinovich than (party boys winners) Jim McMahon and Kenny Stabler. I get that college kids want to drink. That is fine. But when drinking becomes a morning activity and causes you to miss important commitments (like the Manning Camp) its a sign that you have an alchohol problem or are an a-hole, or both.
Yall need to leave Johnny alone. aggy has never given our guys crap when they've screwed! Someone nailed it above, the Mannings have class thus their response. Johnny, not so much.
The fact is that Johnny "Last Call" Manziel sandwhiched the Manning camp in between two late nighters at bars in Louisiana and a bar in Texas. Between Twitter and Instagram, its not like he's trying real hard to hide what he's doing. Think about this: instead of being chastened after embarrassing himself, his family, his coaches, his teammates, TAMU, all things aggy, the Mannings, and a bunch of high school kids and their parents, his first reaction is to hit the bar scene the very next night. Never mind that he's underage Manziel has a problem that only he can correct, or Kevin Sumlin and aggyland will be downing Tylenol like candy this season.
I'm pretty sure Bobby is in the College AND Pro Football Halls of Fame... So to answer the OP's question, I'm gonna go with mmmm....No.
what good does calling him out for his behavior do? what does that even mean? the kid is irresponsible. the kid is immature. that's well documented. but i still maintain that, aside from his troubles with the law last year (which, to be fair he did not start), nothing he's done has been a huge deal. we're talking about a couple of irresponsible tweets and sleeping through meetings at the manning academy (for whatever reasons, hungover etc). maybe my blinders are on (and i will totally acknowledge that they probably are), but until he gets in trouble with the law again, i'm just not seeing any of this as being a gigantic deal...until if affects his play on the field. in the mean time, it just seems like a immature kid who is having difficulty embracing the role model status that comes along with winning the heisman. am i way off here?
No, not way off. But I would be concerned about his pattern and the negative publicity he is bringing to your university. How many red flags is enough? I don't know the answer either, but we will see.
