40,000-50,000 MORE?

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by Horn6721, Jul 10, 2014.

  1. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    from link
    "Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson said Thursday that as many as 90,000 unaccompanied child migrants could cross the southwest border before the end of this fiscal year in September.

    Read more:The Link

    Seriously? Why wouldn't we stop this?

    and apparently Mexico's President has assured Guatemala's pres Mexico is giving Guatemalans legal status for 72 hours so they can transverse Mexico to get there.
    These illegals would be above and beyond the illegal minors>

    BO's solution? to ask for more money to care for them. Why not money to send the Guard to the border and STOP them?

    edit to add the 40k-50k in title thread is based on estimates of 35-40 k already here.
    so even if it turns out to be no more than another 35-40k getting here between now and end of Sept WHY would we not do anything to stop them?
     
  2. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    There will be many more than that and the answer to why he will not stop it........future democrat votes.
     
  3. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    ii's
    Does it surprise that more people are not asking of the BO WH why they wouldn't take measures against Mexico and the other countries?
    We give them our money

    Does it surprise you that a member of BO WH would admit we have thousands more coming
    when we have the means to stop these people?

    Who is for this?
     
  4. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    In today's world, no it doesn't surprise me. The national media is trying to change the name of illegal aliens to refugees. This is just one of many liberal, politically correct policies that will eventually destroy the USA.
     
  5. chango

    chango 2,500+ Posts

    I'm for it -- only because it makes you cry like a little girl.
     
  6. dalhorn1

    dalhorn1 1,000+ Posts

    That's a kind gesture, Chango, to offer to take care of the additional 40k yourself.
     
  7. OrngNugz

    OrngNugz 500+ Posts

    Im totally for it. If 6721 doesnt like it then it must be good. If GOP doesnt like it then it must be great!
     
  8. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Chango and Orgn

    I think it is sad that you dislike my ideology/ political views so much you'd be in favor of something that will hurt you as much as it does me and all of us simply because I am against allowing hundreds of thousands of illegals in.

    ever hear of cutting your nose off to spite your face?
     
  9. OrngNugz

    OrngNugz 500+ Posts

    It's Tit for Tat. Since the discourse on this board has gotten to the point where no valid argument will sway anyone opinion on any subject then the best and simplest equivalent retaliation strategy will be employed on all of your blathering discussion points.

    You guys do it all the time here " if BO is for it then we are against it" is the argument I see here over and over. This game is fun isn't it?
     
  10. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    It doesn't hurt the freeloaders, it helps.
     
  11. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    orng
    Pay attention , read closely and then consider the meaning.
    The policies of BO I am against are NOT because it is BO it is because of the intent or result of the policies.

    I am not against Pelosi's policies because it is Pelosi but because of the intent or result of the policies.
    ditto Reid or Schumer or Feinstein etc etc

    I guess for you and others it is easier to pretend it is personal against the politician instead of asking what some might see wrong with a policy.
    That seems very shallow but if it makes you feel better stick to that view.
    and for goodness sake NEVER ask your self if perhaps there is any negative for all of us to allow hundreds of thousands more illegals.
     
  12. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts


     
  13. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    here is a perfect example.
    This policy is from the BO admin. as outlined by a Border agent union guy:
    "“The aliens who are getting released on their own recognizance are being allowed to board and travel commercial airliners by simply showing their Notice to Appear forms,” NBPC’s Local 2455 Spokesman, Hector Garza, told Breitbart Texas.

    “This is not the CBP [Customs and Border Protection] or another federal agency renting or leasing an aircraft, these are the same planes that the American public uses for domestic travel,” said Garza. “This just adds insult to injury. Not only are we releasing unknown illegal aliens onto American streets, but we are allowing them to travel commercially using paperwork that could easily be reproduced or manipulated on any home computer. The Notice to Appear form has no photo, anyone can make one and manipulate one. They do not have any security features, no watermark, nothing. They are simply printed on standard copy paper based on the information the illegal alien says is the truth.”

    Spokesman Garza continued, “We do not know who these people are, we often have to solely rely on who they say they are, where they say they came from, and the history they say they have. We know nothing about most of them, ICE releases them into the American public, and now they are boarding aircraft at will with a simple paper document that anyone can easily alter or reproduce themselves.”
    The shocking assertions by Garza were further validated by the national body of the NBPC. Breitbart Texas obtained an exclusive statement from the NBPC.


    “The National Border Patrol Council adamantly opposes the decision of DHS to release the illegal aliens who have been transported from the Rio Grande Valley Border Patrol Sector to other locations for processing. The lack of consequences has furthered this crisis and will only continue to do so. The fact that TSA is accepting the I-862 (Notice to Appear) as a form of identification and allowing illegal aliens to travel commercially shows just how little regard the federal government has for its own immigration laws.”The Link


    Do you really think I am against this policy since it came out of the BO Admin?
    is the Union guy against it because it came from the BO admin?
     
  14. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Husker
    I have never criticized BO personally, his looks,his ears ,is girly throw etc, which other have criticized just like Bush got personal attacks.

    I have and will attack his views when I find them to not be in the best interests of the country .And I certainly will attack his policies, like knowing there are more illegals coming and not doing anything to stop them.

    Husker
    what do you think of Johnson saying there will be many more illegal minors coming in between now and end of Sept and no plans to stop them?
     
  15. Burnt Orange Bevo

    Burnt Orange Bevo 1,000+ Posts

    We need to finish that border fence and electrify it, stat.
     
  16. OrngNugz

    OrngNugz 500+ Posts

    “Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.”
     
  17. AustinBat

    AustinBat 2,500+ Posts

    [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] That was during a time when the huddled masses worked their butts off when they got here. Their goal was to make it in America, and millions did. The current illegal aliens (and the huddled masses were not illegal aliens) seem to only ask what the government can do for them.

    So since you are so welcoming to everyone, what do you plan to do when the US runs out of money, cannot print any more, and goes bankrupt? I am sure you must have a good plan. Please share.
     
  18. Larry T. Spider

    Larry T. Spider 1,000+ Posts


     
  19. Uninformed

    Uninformed 5,000+ Posts


     
  20. Michtex

    Michtex 1,000+ Posts


     
  21. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    Cough up more skills and effort, and the higher wages come. This simple fact escapes most liberals.
     
  22. Michtex

    Michtex 1,000+ Posts


     
  23. Vol Horn 4 Life

    Vol Horn 4 Life Good Bye To All The Rest!


     
  24. Uninformed

    Uninformed 5,000+ Posts


     
  25. AustinBat

    AustinBat 2,500+ Posts

    Of course they are not. These illegal immigrants will form the base of the new Blue Texas. They will (illegally) vote in hoards to insure that the government's freebies continue. Free education, free medical care, free food and when they turn 18, free voter registration cards. And the government continues to print money it doesn't have.
     
  26. AustinBat

    AustinBat 2,500+ Posts

    And I am not heartless. I know that the illegal aliens come here and work in the shadows for poor wages. And I know these children would have a better life here. And if there were a path to citizenship that requires a job, the ability to read and write English, the proof that they can support themselves and their families and have no criminal record, Welcome! They have earned citizenship. Earned, not just given.
     
  27. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    Vol answered for me. Totally agree with responsive post.
     
  28. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Several interesting things ;
    More cities across the country have been shocked and angry illegals are being flown and bused to their areas. Now Dems are calling for action to stop this

    Poor people in several cities are asking BO why he isn't helping them. People in Chicago are particularly angry that he is ignoring the poor children there. One activist, who had worked with BO in his professional days pointed out there were 82 people shot in Chicago just during the 4th of july week end.

    another Dem gov asked how if things are so poverty stricken the parents are able to pay thousands to the coyotes to get them here and how could those thousands have helped the kids in their homes? ( something I have pointed out on here).

    Border agents, some who are willing to be named and some that aren't explain that the word in those countries is, come on up, USA will take care of you and the Presidente says you can't be sent back. Border agents have monitored calls from people here to back in the countries and the word is come on, we are being taken care of.

    Now there is a story of lifeless bodies of children being washed up on the banks of the Rio Grande.
    This is horrific.
    The flow MUST be stopped and BO won't even try.
     
  29. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts


     
  30. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Husker
    You make a good point and there is a bill working through the House now.
    I am not sure of the senate

    but one of the talking heads on a show yesterday pointed out that the Wilberforce law applied to children being exploited by traffickers who were taking them from their homes. Not children/ parents PAYING traffickers.
     

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