'The Americans are begging us for a deal'

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by UTChE96, Feb 6, 2015.

  1. UTChE96

    UTChE96 2,500+ Posts

  2. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Wait...the US is begging and the Iran lead negotiator is shouting per a source on the Iran side of the negotiations.

    Where is the weakness again?
     
  3. UTChE96

    UTChE96 2,500+ Posts

    The weakness is that Obama believes diplomacy is the most effective way to deal with Iran. They thank his efforts by humiliating the US on the world stage.
     
  4. pasotex

    pasotex 2,500+ Posts

    Brilliant analysis.

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  5. UTChE96

    UTChE96 2,500+ Posts

    I am completely shocked that an Obama lapdog like yourself would disagree.
     
  6. Crockett

    Crockett 5,000+ Posts

    This is certainly an issue worthy of a serious look. Have the New York Times, Christian Science Monitor, the Wall Street Journal, LA Times, etc. had competent, objective journalists cover this?

    I tend to discount/distrust stuff coming from overtly biased websites, where news and opinion get blended like a smoothie.
     
  7. Bevo Incognito

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  9. UTChE96

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  10. Bevo Incognito

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  11. UTChE96

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  12. Bevo Incognito

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  13. UTChE96

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  14. Bevo Incognito

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  15. UTChE96

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  16. Horns11

    Horns11 10,000+ Posts

    So the point of your OP was to show that we've "fallen" because Iran says we're "begging" them for a nuke deal. And when someone counters with "consider the source," that's basically the end of the thread.
     
  17. UTChE96

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  18. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    UTChe96
    They see your point, Deflection is all they have. I see no attempt at an honest dialogue.
     
  19. UTChE96

    UTChE96 2,500+ Posts

    Horn6721,
    It certainly seems that way. It's bizarre when someone continues to disagree with ME about what MY point is. [​IMG]
     
  20. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Don't you know? BO and his supporters know what YOUR point is better than you know.
     
  21. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    The point was that you were using the statements of someone you admit you don't trust to lambaste the US negotiations.

    I fully understand that you don't feel we should be negotiating. Leveraging the statement above, from someone you don't trust, as an example of our weakness ("sad how far we've fallen") is a little bit absurd, don't you think?

    If you wanted an honest dialogue on US policy towards Iran I'm not sure starting with your first post was conducive to constructive dialogue. You staked out a position to mock the US strategy then when that was discredited you pivoted.
     
  22. UTChE96

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  23. Seattle Husker

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  24. Bronco

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  25. Crockett

    Crockett 5,000+ Posts

    The situation is complicated. The elected government of Iran, feeling the people's pain from the sanctions, is willing to deal. The religious gov't of Iran, which has veto power and is supported by folks including this Revolutionary Guard general, are more insulated from the suffering. As ideologues they won't compromise, even if it makes sense. Curiously enough, the sanctions we've implemented are very effective at causing economic distress for the average Iranian.
     
  26. Seattle Husker

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