Art Briles Fired

Discussion in 'On The Field' started by Mesohorny, May 26, 2016.

  1. Tmanjake

    Tmanjake < 25 Posts

    And to think of all our fans that pushed for Briles to replace Mack. Thank goodness we got the exact opposite from a core values standpoint. Probably couldn't find two coaches that are so different.
     
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  2. BevoJoe

    BevoJoe 10,000+ Posts

    Like I said before, nothing stays buried and Art's day was coming...today is that day.
    ~AND~
    I hope that dirt bag never sees another sideline at any level.
     
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  3. BevoJoe

    BevoJoe 10,000+ Posts

    Nah, they are all tainted too! Time to clean the entire house and be done with them all.
     
  4. 22Horn

    22Horn 500+ Posts

    2016 recruits can be released from LOI....who would Texas consider taking other than Hudson.
    A good time to be selective in filling needed depth!

    Death penalty ? Remove Baylor from Big 12?
     
  5. HornSwoggler

    HornSwoggler Horn Fan

    Where will Briles go next? SEC? :smile1: Probably depends on whether he is sanctioned or penalized by the NCAA assuming they have that authority.
     
  6. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    Barriers to Implementation of Title IX within Baylor’s Football Program
    Baylor failed to maintain effective oversight and supervision of the Athletics
    Department as it related to the effective implementation of Title IX. Leadership challenges and communications issues hindered enforcement of rules and policies, and created a cultural perception that football was above the rules. In addition to the issues related to student misconduct, the University and Athletics Department failed to take effective action in response to allegations involving misconduct by football staff. Further, despite the fact that other departments repeatedly raised concerns that the Athletics Department’s response to student or employee misconduct was inadequate, Baylor administrators took insufficient steps to address the concerns.
    Baylor failed to take appropriate action to respond to reports of sexual assault and
    dating violence reportedly committed by football players. The choices made by football staff and athletics leadership, in some instances, posed a risk to campus safety and the integrity of the University. In certain instances, including reports of a sexual assault by multiple football players, athletics and football personnel affirmatively chose not to report sexual violence and dating violence to an appropriate administrator outside of athletics. In those instances, football coaches or staff met directly with a complainant and/or a parent of a complainant and did not report the misconduct. As a result, no action was taken to support complainants, fairly and impartially evaluate the conduct under Title IX, address identified cultural concerns within the football program, or protect campus safety once aware of a potential pattern of sexual violence by multiple football players.

    In addition, some football coaches and staff took improper steps in response to
    disclosures of sexual assault or dating violence that precluded the University from fulfilling its legal obligations. Football staff conducted their own untrained internal inquiries, outside of policy, which improperly discredited complainants and denied them the right to a fair, impartial and informed investigation, interim measures or processes promised under University policy. In
    some cases, internal steps gave the illusion of responsiveness to complainants but failed to provide a meaningful institutional response under Title IX. Further, because reports were not shared outside of athletics, the University missed critical opportunities to impose appropriate disciplinary action that would have removed offenders from campus and possibly precluded future acts of sexual violence against Baylor students. In some instances, the football program
    dismissed players for unspecified team violations and assisted them in transferring to other schools. As a result, some football coaches and staff abdicated responsibilities under Title IX and Clery; to student welfare; to the health and safety of complainants; and to Baylor’s institutional values.

    In addition to the failures related to sexual assault and dating violence, individuals within the football program actively sought to maintain internal control over discipline for other forms of misconduct. Athletics personnel failed to recognize the conflict of interest in roles and risk to campus safety by insulating athletes from student conduct processes. Football coaches and staff took affirmative steps to maintain internal control over discipline of players and to actively divert cases from the student conduct or criminal processes. In some cases, football coaches and staff had inappropriate involvement in disciplinary and criminal matters or engaged in improper conduct that reinforced an overall perception that football was above the rules, and that there was no culture of accountability for misconduct.


    The football program also operates an internal system of discipline, separate from
    University processes, which is fundamentally inconsistent with the mindset required for effective Title IX implementation, and has resulted in a lack of parity vis a vis the broader student population. This informal system of discipline involves multiple coaches and administrators, relies heavily upon individual judgment in lieu of clear standards for discipline, and has resulted in conduct being ignored or players being dismissed from the team based on an informal and subjective process. The ad hoc internal system of discipline lacks protocols for consistency with University policy and is wholly undocumented. The football program’s separate system of internal discipline reinforces the perception
    that rules applicable to other students are not applicable to football players, improperly insulates football players from appropriate disciplinary consequences, and puts students, the program, and the institution at risk of future misconduct. It is also inconsistent with institutional reporting obligations. The football program failed to identify and maintain controls over known risks, and unreasonably accepted known risks. Leadership in football and the athletics department did not set the tone, establish a policy or practice for reporting and documenting significant misconduct. The lack of reporting expectations resulted in a lack of accountability for player misconduct and employee misconduct. Further, no attempt was made to understand the root causes of behavior or steps necessary to prevent its recurrence. In addition, in one instance, in response to concerns about misconduct by football players that could contribute to a hostile environment, an academic program that required interaction with the football program improperly restricted educational opportunities for students, rather than take steps to eliminate a
    potential hostile environment.
     
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  7. LonghornCatholic

    LonghornCatholic Deo Gratias

    Longhorn Network's fault.
     
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  8. p_town_horn

    p_town_horn 1,000+ Posts

    Truly shocked

    I cannot image how bad the Pepper Hamilton report must be if Baylor is firing Briles.
     
  9. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    Read the long excerpt I just posted.
     
  10. 14tokihorn

    14tokihorn 1,000+ Posts

  11. BevoJoe

    BevoJoe 10,000+ Posts

    Wouldn't bother me any.
     
  12. NBHorn7

    NBHorn7 Pimp Daddy

    Penn State didn't get the death penalty, that won't happen.
     
  13. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Issue now is how deep into the Athletic Department does this go. Baylor had the same issues with the Men's Basketball program with the death, and both the current Men's and Women's coaches seem to be operating in not a straight forward manner.
     
  14. LAGA4

    LAGA4 500+ Posts

    NCAA is probably online right now trying to figure out is there something going on at Baylor that we need to look into.
     
  15. NBHorn7

    NBHorn7 Pimp Daddy

    They could get popped on a level as bad as Penn State got, this seems to be onion like, many layers to peel back.

    Lack of institutional control is very evident here, no other way to describe this.

    The hammer should come down hard, but I don't think the NCAA will invoke the death penalty, they have had other chances to do that, but didn't.
     
  16. Brad Austin

    Brad Austin 2,500+ Posts

    Hope Baylor enjoyed every moment of victory while selling their soul for two 1st place Big 12 finishes and nothing more. Back to the cellar you go for another 20 years.
     
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  17. Detective Shilala

    Detective Shilala 2,500+ Posts

    Bummer - I was kind of hoping we'd get to ruin one more Baylor football season for Briles before he got canned.
     
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  18. WorsterMan

    WorsterMan SEC here we come!!

    Time for Briles, Starr and BU to pay the piper.
     
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  19. p_town_horn

    p_town_horn 1,000+ Posts

    Wow! So it is really, really bad.
     
  20. Godz40acres

    Godz40acres Happy Feller

    Death Penalty says I.

     
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  21. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    p town,

    Keep in mind that this report was done by the same firm that whitewashed the State Penn situation, which had existed for years. Many people in Pennsylvania, including HS coaches knew at least some of what was happening, but any revelation or report would have ended their career if not worse.

    Worster,

    Starr being allowed to stay just means he knows too much, isn't going to take the fall, and will save his own *** at the expense of the school. It is my opinion that his "demotion" amounts to little more than hush money.

    When the whole state and half the nation is talking about the situation at Baylor, how can the Baylor Board of regents be oblivious to the situation? Consider their history:

    1) Second worst steroid abuse situation in D-1, player dies, nothing happens except one guy gets fired. Kind of like blaming the gun store owner, who sold Worster a gun, which was stolen in a burglary at your house and used to kill a stop n steal manager. It's Baylor!

    2) Worst cocaine problem in D-1 in the 90s. Response - make all parties featuring drugs and alcohol be off campus so you can kill innocent students and others while they get drunk or stoned and drive back to campus. Look at the numerous instances. It's Baylor

    3) Hiring Robert Sloan - enough said

    4) Hiring Ken Starr - We know what they refuse to acknowledge - It's Baylor!

    Where has Willis been during his entire tenure as Chairman of their regents? That entire board should be replaced for getting money to play "ostrich". Anything short of total and complete replacement is totally unacceptable. These clowns have lived in oblivion so long that they think no one is watching.
     
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  22. Brad Austin

    Brad Austin 2,500+ Posts

    Briles will take a year off, Sumlin will bomb again in 2016, and the Aggies will hire their new scumbag, former UH coach.
     
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  23. BevoJoe

    BevoJoe 10,000+ Posts

    Baylor set out to make a name for themselves in the NCAA Football world. They sure have now as one of the top three in company with SMU and Penn St. for despicable and deplorable acts. Congrats to Baylor, Fart Briles and Kendall Briles, they are certainly deserving candidates for the NCAA Hall of Shame.

    I'm observing a few moments of silence for all of the victims and the relative and friends of those victims that have had their lives disrupted and in some cases ruined by those individuals.
     
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  24. Crockett

    Crockett 5,000+ Posts

    In defense of Baylor Regents, they made the findings public and fired the most successful on-field leader in the history of their university. Now Baylor has athletic department revenues like Nebraska when they used to have revenues like SMU. The Bears now have a lot of rabid, excited fans who loved Art Briles up until about 11 a.m. this morning.
     
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  25. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Crockett,

    I totally disagree. When media reports are talking about these problems for nearly a decade, and no effort is set forth to look into it. That board is copeable and should resign, which might happen after they are assured they have bought Starr's silence.
     
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  26. Detective Shilala

    Detective Shilala 2,500+ Posts

    They did it pretty swiftly too. Well, let me qualify that. They should have done this a long time ago (who knows how long they knew all this) but once the cat was out of the bag, they did not waste much time. Which tells me the truth is probably far worse than we will ever know.

    Also, Ken Starr must have naked photographs of someone.
     
  27. BevoJoe

    BevoJoe 10,000+ Posts

    I'd be interested to see if we could remove baylor from the conference and replace them with another program, only have a conference of 9 in 2016, or other. Probably, not gonna happen, but talk is cheap.
     
  28. easy

    easy 2,500+ Posts

    I've seen a lot of talk on a few different sites that Hudson may want out. I wonder if we could get Dickinson back in the fold also, heck I wonder if Charlie even wants them now he passed on kyler to keep Sam in tact hell who knows
     
  29. LonghornCatholic

    LonghornCatholic Deo Gratias

  30. militaryhorn

    militaryhorn Prediction Contest Manager

    I am probably in the minority here on this feeling, but I would take many losing seasons than to have a program like Baylor.

    The ironic thing is that Texas chose to hire a coach with integrity, values, and honor in a city that is considered very liberal while the more conservative christian university chose to stand by a man with no morales, disrespectful, and no integrity.

    Glad we have a Strong and I will continue to feel this way even if he is eventually fired. Our brand needs to stay above the fray no matter how bad it gets on the field.
     
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