Art Briles Fired

Discussion in 'On The Field' started by Mesohorny, May 26, 2016.

  1. blonthang

    blonthang 2,500+ Posts

    Pretty sure the death penalty, only once applied, was for three strikes, not so much the severity of the infractions.

    SMU clearly broke the rules. NCAA puts them on probation. SMU breaks the same rules again. NCAA says, STOP IT NOW OR ELSE and puts SMU on probation again.

    And then......SMU breaks the same rules again ---- death penalty.
     
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  2. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Where was she when Baylor coaches were covering up rapes and assualts by football players?
     
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  3. NBHorn7

    NBHorn7 Pimp Daddy

    How ironic is this article from last year.

    Football and faith: the temptation of Baylor

    SMU got the death penalty, for paying players and that is fine, they deserved it, but so did others, for similar offences.

    Baylor has coverered up murder and now multiple rapes over a long period of time, maybe the NCAA should consider some policy changes.
     
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  4. lanceut

    lanceut 250+ Posts

    Notice there is not even ONE word in her pathetic diatribe mentioning any of the innocent assault victims. Obviously the apple doesn't fall too far from the tree with that family....
     
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  5. Detective Shilala

    Detective Shilala 2,500+ Posts

    Out of the mouths of babes. Like I'm sure Art Briles would have brought this part of his work home with him:

    "How was your day at work Daddy?"
    "I've had better. The the team was a little flat at afternoon practice. I also had to go lean on another one of these "rape victims" to keep her crybaby mouth shut again today!"
    "Oh daddy!"
     
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  6. HornSwoggler

    HornSwoggler Horn Fan

    Anyone else smell a ****load of legal action coming in the near future for Baylor and some of its employees.
     
  7. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    HS,

    Baylor has always been good at payoffs and sealed files. Threats of action? Sure, but depending on the next couple of weeks, you can bet there will be "ambassadors of good will" on the road to promote "good will".
     
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  8. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Baylor will rally the followers probably using Texas as the strawman.

    What happened at Baylor is the best example yet of "lack of institutional control". Since this is Baylor's second (the death and cover-up being the first) "lack of institutional control" beef, the NCAA should (but probably will not) step-in quick with a heavy (multiple millions in excess of ten to be paid to a women's relief fund) fine to the school; four year bowl ban; four year ban on accepting any transfers (including JUCO and Grad Students) in; minus 5 football scholarships in each of 4 years; and 5 year knock on Briles with an addition 5 years probation.

    What they probably will get is a one year bowl ban and permission for all scholarship athletes on campus to seek new homes, but it will not make any difference as to Briles' punishment as it will be several years before any D1 school even approaches him.
     
  9. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Briles will get a show cause at the least.

    The NCAA is a gutless organization. I do like your idea about the donation. How about the NCAA and Big XII team up and force Baylor to donate their share of of the bowl pie plus TV revenue should any of their games be televised to said organization(s).

    This would not be in lieu of the payoffs to the victims.
     
  10. NBHorn7

    NBHorn7 Pimp Daddy

    After taking this all in for two days, I'm beginning to wonder if there was a bit of a power struggle between Starr and Briles, maybe Starr was the winner.

    Starr was fine defending Briles, till it looked like he was going to be offered up as the fall guy. Then things changed.

    There's a lot of things that still could come out, that hasn't been released yet. It may be a long time till the full Hamilton report is released. This might get even worse for Baylor and they want more time for cover.

    Starr knows where all the bodies are buried and may have been ready to release all the information, if they tried to railroad him. Something isn't right about this still to me.
     
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  11. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    NB,

    I think you are either onto something or we have some of the same friends.

    It certainly appears that Starr & Briles were in the same boat together playing CYA. I do think it speaks volumes about the powers at Baylor that they were willing to blindside Starr to save Briles. (Not sying he didn't deserve it.) That's when Starr said, "oh, but no", and threatened to release the entire report, which most Baylor powers wanted to be released fully redacted. Suddenly, Starr is to such a bad guy to the same people that wanted to feed him to the wolves 48 hours before.

    So much corruption and so little interest in investigating it.
     
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  12. NBHorn7

    NBHorn7 Pimp Daddy

    This isn't the baseball board, but I still call em,' like I see em.'

    What I see is still a lot of loose ends, that have yet to be tied.
     
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  13. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    I'll just add that there aren't any sailors in McLennan County, so I would hold your breath.

    Reveal only enough to draw criticism and bury the rest. Too much liability and possible tampering with evidence, witness intimidation, and obstruction that could turn really nasty.
     
  14. yelladawgdem

    yelladawgdem 2,500+ Posts

    As I stated in another thread, Ken Starr held a nation hostage and spent $77,000,000 tax payer dollars to prove Vince Foster killed himself and Bill Clinton had bad taste. What on earth could possibly make you think he is going to be the "fall guy"? He very literally knows where the bodies are buried and naming him Chancellor and law professor are not even thinly veiled "hush money"

    I mean, it's BAYLOR for God's sake.
     
  15. 56 Bells

    56 Bells 500+ Posts

    Coverups are so easy to accomplish in private and religious institutions. There are no "open records" laws for them. Seems a bit unfair to say private/religious schools don't have to abide by "open records" laws. That needs to change immediately.
    Far from these horrible sexual assault instances, there's the question of where money goes, who gets paid what,etc. Private schools don't even have to let the public know of pay scales for coaches, etc.....and slush funds are easy to orchestrate.
    It's a mess! All in the name of religious schools being exempt for open records laws.
     
  16. yelladawgdem

    yelladawgdem 2,500+ Posts

    Again a misrepresentation of how as a culture we view these actions. Briles (et. al.) didn't treat "humans" like garbage. It was "WOMEN" who were treated like garbage. Somebody's daughter. Sister. Grand daughter.

    Any attempt to compare this to what was happening at SMU, is a deeply flawed perspective.
     
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  17. Detective Shilala

    Detective Shilala 2,500+ Posts

    So the coaches took it upon themselves to "interview" victims and made many of these accusations go away... Gee, I wonder if there was ever any bribery involved there?
     
  18. Godz40acres

    Godz40acres Happy Feller

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    Wait. Who got fired?
     
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  19. old65horn

    old65horn 1,000+ Posts

    Didn't the agys do the same thing a few years later and got a slap on the wrist?
     
  20. old65horn

    old65horn 1,000+ Posts

    agreed. How could they NOT be involved.
     
  21. Crockett

    Crockett 5,000+ Posts

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    Yeah, you know, a score of coeds raped and denied recourse is really small potatoes compare to Aushwitz or the Rape of Naking. The media are so poor about putting things in context.
     
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  22. georgecostanza

    georgecostanza NBHorn7’s Protégé

    Just came across on SportsCenter that Bennett (the current DC) will be offered the head coaching job. What a joke!
     
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  25. Phil Elliott

    Phil Elliott 2,500+ Posts

    This is SOP for all the "other" schools who get caught doing something nasty. It's always Texas' fault. SMU and a$m said the same thing when their time with the NCAA enforcement council came around.
     
  26. BevoJoe

    BevoJoe 10,000+ Posts

    Yea and I hope they get crucified.
     
  27. majorwhiteapples

    majorwhiteapples 5,000+ Posts

    Funny how liberals are still pissed that Bill Clinton lied to the American people and some jacksasses are still blaming Ken Starr for that..... [name calling comment removed -Admin]
     
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  28. WorsterMan

    WorsterMan SEC here we come!!

    "how quite a few Baylor players have new cars"

    Simply a perception problem / misunderstanding I'm sure.

    After all, unemployed college football players on scholarship are always flush with lot's of cash and have great FICO scores.
     
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  29. Mesohorny

    Mesohorny 1,000+ Posts

    mwa,

    So, despite Starr's non-investigation in this Baylor rape mess, he's still one of your heroes for the Clinton blowjob investigation?
     
  30. MudHorn

    MudHorn Admin Moderator

    @majorwhiteapples I think you know this bit from the Posting Guidelines.

    Personal attacks, name-calling and aggressive messages are not acceptable.

    We are not doing that **** here. Pleas edit or remove your post.

    @yelladawgdem Ken Starr's political history with Clinton is not relevant here so let's keep those references to the West Mall. It just stirs things up on the football threads.
     

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