Obama Admin. Ransoms 4 Americans for $400 million

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  1. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    HRC has the Orlando shooter's father in her backdrop at her rally today. It is news on every major site including top for liberal based Yahoo. However, not even mentioned on CNN site. Yet there are 5 negative "top" stories on Trump.

    Yes, CNN is politically right where you are. They say they are independent, but nothing they publish reflects anything but far left ideology for Clinton.
     
  2. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Did Obama lie about this?

    From the WSJ --


    "WASHINGTON—New details of the $400 million U.S. payment to Iran earlier this year depict a tightly scripted exchange specifically timed to the release of several American prisoners held in Iran.

    The picture emerged from accounts of U.S. officials and others briefed on the operation: U.S. officials wouldn’t let Iranians take control of the money until a Swiss Air Force plane carrying three freed Americans departed from Tehran on Jan. 17. Once that happened, an Iranian cargo plane was allowed to bring the cash home from a Geneva airport that day.

    President Barack Obama and other U.S. officials have said the payment didn’t amount to ransom, because the U.S. owed the money to Iran as part of a longstanding dispute linked to a failed arms deal from the 1970s. U.S. officials have said that the prisoner release and cash transfer took place through two separate diplomatic channels.

    But the handling of the payment and its connection to the Americans’ release have raised questions among lawmakers and administration critics.

    The use of an Iranian cargo plane to move pallets filled with $400 million brings clarity to one of the mysteries surrounding the cash delivery to Iran first reported by The Wall Street Journal this month. Administration officials have refused to publicly disclose how and when the transfer took place. Executives from Iran’s flagship carrier, Iran Air, organized the flight from Tehran to Geneva where the cash—euros and Swiss francs and other currencies—was loaded onto the aircraft, these people said.

    “Our top priority was getting the Americans home,” said a U.S. official. Once the Americans were “wheels up” on the morning of Jan. 17, Iranian officials in Geneva were allowed to take custody of the $400 million in currency, according to officials briefed on the exchange....."


    MORE AT THE LINK http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-held-cash-until-iran-freed-prisoners-1471469256
     
  3. Clean

    Clean 5,000+ Posts

    It wasn't ransom because we owed them the money. What a laugh. That's like one of those court cases where the murderer, arrested with the body in his car and blood on his hands, is found not guilty because of some stupid technicality like they didn't Mirandize him or something.

    Obama can call it charity payments for the Little Sisters of the Poor if he wants. Everybody knows what it was and terrorists will take notice.

    Obama must have studied under Bill "depends on your definition of 'is'" Clinton.
     
  4. Brad Austin

    Brad Austin 2,500+ Posts

    And this guy's favorite saying is "that's not who we are as Americans".

    Really? America has laws strictly prohibiting ransom payments to foreign states or terrorist groups.

    The same laws he publicly stated he wouldn't enforce if American families desired to pay ransom for their captured relatives.

    These laws were enforced (until he took office) as a deterrent by negating any financial gain, thus greatly decreasing the motivation and frequency of kidnappings.

    BO has proven time and again he has little understanding or regard for the values and traditions of patriotic Americans and those who died protecting them.
     
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  5. I35

    I35 5,000+ Posts

    Brad, I couldn't have stated it better. Also I hate when he says "that's not who we are." He thinks his words establishes who we are or who were not as Americans. There are so many things he's done "that's not who we are" so I wish he'd STFU.
     
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  6. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    The Obama Admin says it was not ranson
    But then .....

     
  7. Clean

    Clean 5,000+ Posts

    And that's not all folks. We then paid them an additional $1.3 billion for get this, interest on the $400 million! And they did it from something called the "Judgment Fund" to once again circumvent The Constitution.

    http://www.nysun.com/foreign/riddle-of-13-billion-for-iran-might-be-solved-by/89692/

    That should help Iran build those terrorist training bases they're putting up in Latin America specifically to attack the United States.

    This is the stupidest Administration in history. And we're about to shoot ourselves in the head by electing an Obama clone!

    We can only hope Hillary won't keep John Kerry on as Sec. of State.
     
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  8. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    How was the interest paid to them?
     
  9. Clean

    Clean 5,000+ Posts

    Congress is trying to figure that out. They're being stone walled by the Obama Admin., of course. State Dept. just says that it was paid.

     
  10. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts


    Had to be Treasury ....
     
  11. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  12. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    We did fire warning shots at them^
     
  13. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

     
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  14. I35

    I35 5,000+ Posts

    I heard no warning shots were fired.

    Iranian Boats heavily armed harass our US Destroyer and we shoot flairs in the air and blow the horn. We come across as little girls screaming "Stranger Danger, Stranger Danger." I don't blame our military as we know the administration has the call. It just sucks that we're not allowed to punch the bully in the Adam's apple. We have to have a leader that gets in front of the world and state that this will not be tolerated and if it happens again to expect we will defend ourselves if approached. Then react if they do it to show we mean what we say. They don't respect us. We just gave them $400 million for hostages and then what $150 Billion or $500 billion? Then they do this? Not even talking about the time they captured our guys and humiliated them to the world. When is enough.....enough?
     
  15. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Apparently it was a separate incident 1 day later
     
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  16. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  17. Clean

    Clean 5,000+ Posts

    Sure we're giving free money to terrorists, but Big Brother Obama is really just saving us money in the long run.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...er-to-iran-in-foreign-cash-treasury-says.html

    Obama thumbs his nose at and ignores Congress, but the thought that some international court could rule against us, that scares him sh!tless!! I guess it's the globalist in him.
     
  18. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    How were we able to give that money directly when BO told us we could not give the ransom directly so we had to ship cash on pallettes?
     
  19. Clean

    Clean 5,000+ Posts

     
  20. Phil Elliott

    Phil Elliott 2,500+ Posts

    It never occurred to me that an administration could ever be this lawless in the US.
     
  21. Clean

    Clean 5,000+ Posts

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  22. I35

    I35 5,000+ Posts

    What's his motive for doing this? Because no way it helps us. We do know how it helps them. So again........WHY?
     
  23. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Is anyone surprised the BO apologists on here haven't come up with a lame *** explanation yet? I guess the BO gang has not distributed talking points yet
    Maybe they will unveil them on the Sunday talkers ala Susan Rice's doggy show.
     
  24. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

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  25. mb227

    mb227 de Plorable

    Just wait and see how Obummer is outdone if HRC manages to survive long enough to get back into the White House in a position of power...
     
  26. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    How telling is it that none of the BO supporters on here have tried to spin this ?
     

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