Murdered DNC staffer the Wikileaks Informant?

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  1. Musburger1

    Musburger1 2,500+ Posts

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...-seth-rich-wikileaks-dnc-source-shot-dead-dc/

    That's what is implied by Assange.

    Just for grins I'll fuel the fire to see how many of us are suspicious and how many of us automatically dismiss as conspiracy theory.

    Everyone knows there is a history with Clinton accusers where they tend to either be denigrated or turn up dead. Be that as it may, if the above murder was connected to the DNC leaks, the hit could have been directed by elements within the deep state.

    Recently, Charlie Rose interviewed former CIA director and staunch Clinton supporter Mike Morrell. Morrell just announced his intention of running for President on an anti-Trump platform based on foreign policy. In the interview Morrell calls for clandestine murder of Iranians and Russians as well directly targeting Assad. For a former high level CIA administrator to advocate assassination and murder in the name of national security, how big a jump is it to make the same mentality within the agency or elsewhere in the deep state would arrange for a murder of someone who exposed secrets that could cause damage to their power base?
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-...supporter-we-should-kill-russians-and-iranian
     
  2. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 2,500+ Posts

    Nice neighborhood, shot in the back between 4 and 5 in the morning (the least likely time of day a murder is committed by "typical" criminals), watch and wallet not taken, on his way to FBI presumably to discuss Clinton Foundation, leaker of DNC emails........nah, there's nothing suspicious about that murder.
     
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  3. WorsterMan

    WorsterMan SEC here we come!!

    Yup.

    Always dubious timing with the Clinton's.

    This is yet another sad and violent death that fits the long and deep pattern of mysterious murders and unexplained "suicides" that have follow both Clinton's for years.

    Sorry...far, far too many violent deaths on the list to pass off as just a coincidence, you have no proof of wrongdoing or it's just a right wing conspiracy out to smear the Clinton's.
     
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  4. WorsterMan

    WorsterMan SEC here we come!!

  5. NJlonghorn

    NJlonghorn 2,500+ Posts

  6. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  7. Clean

    Clean 5,000+ Posts

    WTH would even Obama grant someone convicted of espionage against the U.S clemency?
     
  8. Musburger1

    Musburger1 2,500+ Posts

    If Obama can incarcerate Assange and silence him, he might let Manning go. This isn't about justice for espionage - either with respect to Manning or Assange. It's about protecting the State against the public gaining knowledge of its illegal and unconstitutional practices by intimidating and silencing potential whistleblowers. Just as with Snowden. The government controls the narrative with a mostly complicit press.
     
  9. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Mus
    Mostly complicit press? So you think maybe there is still an outlet willing to risk exposing the gov't?
     
  10. Musburger1

    Musburger1 2,500+ Posts

    There are individual bloggers and independent journalists that speak out, but they aren't going to receive face time on TV or front page access on the Washington Post. The consensus in the media is government=good, whistleblower=treasonous conspirator.
     
  11. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Obama won't be granting Manning clemency, just as Snowden won'd get the same. This is grandstanding by Assange knowing there is no possibility of clemency. It's a PR move.
     
  12. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    It appears the answer is yes, at least according to Guccifer 2.0

    Guccifer 2.0: his name is seth.he was my whistleblower
    I suppose you know who I’m talking about

    Is this why the DNC refused to let the FBI have access to its servers?
     
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  13. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    A Russian hacker linked to Russian Intelligence is trying to feed the "inside man" theory for the DNC hacking? I'm shocked.
     
  14. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  15. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Is this the reason the DNC refused to let the FBI search its servers?
    Because it would have shown Rich was the leak source?
    Establishing motive
     
  16. Musburger1

    Musburger1 2,500+ Posts

  17. Musburger1

    Musburger1 2,500+ Posts

     
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  18. Musburger1

    Musburger1 2,500+ Posts

    More:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-...affer-seth-rich-shared-44000-emails-wikileaks

    Murdered DNC Staffer Seth Rich Shared 44,053 Democrat Emails With WikiLeaks: Report
    For the past several months, Democrats have based their "Resist 45" movement on unsubstantiated assertions that the Trump campaign coordinated with Russian intelligence officials to undermine the 2016 Presidential Election thereby 'stealing' the White House from Hillary Clinton. Day after day we've all suffered through one anonymously sourced, "shock" story after another from the New York Times and/or The Washington Post with new allegations of the 'wrongdoing'.

    But, new evidence surfacing in the Seth Rich murder investigation may just quash the "Russian hacking" conspiracy theory. According to a new report from Fox News, it was former DNC staffer Seth Rich who supplied 44,000 DNC emails to WikiLeaks and not some random Russian cyber terrorist, as we've all been led to believe.

    According to Fox News, though admittedly via yet another anonymous FBI source, Rich made contact with WikiLeaks through Gavin MacFadyen, an American investigative reporter and director of WikiLeaks who was living in London at the time. According to Fox News sources, federal law enforcement investigators found 44,053 emails and 17,761 attachments sent between DNC leaders from January 2015 to May 2016 that Rich shared with WikiLeaks before he was gunned down on July 10, 2016.

    The Democratic National Committee staffer who was gunned down on July 10 on a Washington, D.C., street just steps from his home had leaked thousands of internal emails to WikiLeaks, law enforcement sources told Fox News.

    A federal investigator who reviewed an FBI forensic report detailing the contents of DNC staffer Seth Rich’s computer generated within 96 hours after his murder, said Rich made contact with WikiLeaks through Gavin MacFadyen, a now-deceased American investigative reporter, documentary filmmaker, and director of WikiLeaks who was living in London at the time.

    “I have seen and read the emails between Seth Rich and Wikileaks,” the federal investigator told Fox News, confirming the MacFadyen connection. He said the emails are in possession of the FBI, while the stalled case is in the hands of the Washington Police Department.

    Then, on July 22, just 12 days after Rich was killed, WikiLeaks published internal DNC emails that appeared to show top party officials conspiring to stop Bernie Sanders from becoming the party’s presidential nominee. As we've noted before, the DNC's efforts to block Sanders resulted in Debbie Wasserman Schultz resigning as DNC chairperson.

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    These new revelations seem to be consistent with the findings of Rod Wheeler, a former DC homicide detective and Fox News contributor, whose private investigation firm was hired by Rich’s family to probe the case.

    "My investigation up to this point shows there was some degree of email exchange between Seth Rich and WikiLeaks," Wheeler told Fox News. "I do believe that the answers to who murdered Seth Rich sits on his computer on a shelf at the DC police or FBI headquarters."

    “My investigation shows someone within the D.C. government, Democratic National Committee or Clinton team is blocking the murder investigation from going forward,” Wheeler told Fox News. “That is unfortunate. Seth Rich’s murder is unsolved as a result of that.”

    The botched robbery theory, which police have pursued for nearly a year, isn’t panning out, Wheeler said. Two assailants caught on a grainy video tape from a camera posted outside a grocery mart, shot Rich twice in his back, but did not take his wallet, cell phone, keys, watch or necklace worth about $2,000.

    As you'll recall, Rich's death has been shrouded in mystery from the start as he was reportedly shot from behind in the wee hours of the morning but was not robbed of the nearly $2,000 worth of cash and jewelry on his body at the time.

    Rich had been at Lou’s City Bar a couple of miles from his home until about 1:15 a.m. He walked home, calling several people along the way. He called his father, Joel Rich, who he missed because he had gone to
    sleep. He talked with a fraternity brother and his girlfriend, Kelsey Mulka.

    Around 4:17 a.m., Rich was about a block from his home when Mulka, still on the phone with him, heard voices in the background. Rich reassured her that he was steps away from being at his front door and hung up.

    Two minutes later, Rich was shot twice. Police were on the scene within three minutes. Rich sustained bruising on his hands and face. He remained conscious, but died at a nearby hospital less than two hours later.

    Shortly thereafter, Julian Assange implied that Seth Rich was, in fact, a source for WikiLeaks and offered a $130,000 reward for information leading to his killer.

    Julian Assange heavily implies Seth Rich was DNC leaker... https://t.co/W6FG4IFe5Q pic.twitter.com/6ytad7kRLZ

    — ZeroPointNow (@ZeroPointNow) March 29, 2017

    Per the Washington Examiner, Rich's family issued the following statement, via a 'spokesman', regarding the recent Fox News reports saying they have seen no evidence of the alleged emails between Seth Rich and WikiLeaks:

    "As we've seen through the past year of unsubstantiated claims, we see no facts, we have seen no evidence, we have been approached with no emails and only learned about this when contacted by the press," the statement said. "Even if tomorrow, an email was found, it is not a high enough bar of evidence to prove any interactions as emails can be altered and we've seen that those interest in pushing conspiracies will stop at nothing to do so."

    "We are a family who is committed to facts, not fake evidence that surfaces every few months to fill the void and distract law enforcement and the general public from finding Seth's murderers. The services of the private investigator who spoke to the press was offered to the Rich family and paid for by a third party, and contractually was barred from speaking to press or anyone outside of law enforcement or the family unless explicitly authorized by the family."

    But, as WikiLeaks noted, the family's "spokesman" is none other than Democrat crisis PR consultant Brad Bauman.

    Seth Rich's new "family spokesman" is Brad Bauman a professional Democrat crisis PR consultant with the Pastorum Group.

    — WikiLeaks (@wikileaks) August 11, 2016

    Seems that not everyone within the FBI is on board with the "Russian hacking" narrative and are finally starting to come forward.

    Finally, we find it 'shocking' that while the New York Times, Washington Post, CNN, etc are all too eager to regurgitate each others anonymously sourced stories that are critical of Trump, not a single one of them had a single reference of this Fox News bombshell on their website at the time this article was published.
     
  19. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Is it a surprise to anyone that the Kremlin and Alt-Right positions align here?

    Meanwhile, the actual spokesperson for Rich's family had this to say:
     
  20. Musburger1

    Musburger1 2,500+ Posts

    Seth Rich's new "family spokesman" is Brad Bauman a professional Democrat crisis PR consultant with the PastorumGroup.
     
  21. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    at what point does coincidence become not coincidence?


     
  22. Clean

    Clean 5,000+ Posts

    At what point does the MSM give this story even a modicum of attention in between the fake news stories attacking Trump?
     
  23. Musburger1

    Musburger1 2,500+ Posts

  24. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    More anonymous sources. Until people go on the record, this is a non-story.
     
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  25. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Joe Capone, owner of the bar where Seth was last seen alive, was in Oval Office 4 days before the murder
     
  26. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    We have been told for a long time that Guccifer 2 is a Russian hacker who hacked the DNC. The same files that Seth Rick may have leaked.

     
  27. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  28. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Here at ~ 1:00 to 1:04, Assange appears to affirm with a nod that Rich was the Wikileaks source

     
  29. Musburger1

    Musburger1 2,500+ Posts

    The Democrat line has always been that the DNC was hacked by the Russians. As it becomes clear it wasn't a hack, but instead a leak, the story will need to change. Richo will be turned into a Russian spy, and then taken out by Russian operatives ordered by Putin. And half of America will buy into it.

    If a jury can exonerate OJ, this will be a piece of cake for CNN and the Washington Post.
     
  30. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    And the various US Intelligence services.
     

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