1st Offensive series, what would you call?

Discussion in 'On The Field' started by Detective Shilala, Aug 31, 2016.

  1. Detective Shilala

    Detective Shilala 2,500+ Posts

    If you were Sterlin Gilbert, and you had a script for the first offensive series, what would you call?

    First, I just have a feeling they are going to go with Swoops to start the game.
    I don't know all the nuances of offensive play calling so I'll just say just throw the 18 Wheeler at them first thing.
    Let our OLs do some run blocking, and get their bearings.
    And don't ask TS to go out there and execute our base offense first thing, but if we can find a little room running the ball in the 18 Wheeler, then max protect and ask TS to go deep to Burt or Johnson, even if its on third down.

    On the next series, let either TS or Boo execute the regular offense, (go with TS only if he showed something in the 18 Wheeler)

    So says Coach Shilala. And I play NCAA football on the X-Box so I know what I'm talking about.

    What would you call if you were Gilbert?
     
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  2. MudHorn

    MudHorn Admin Moderator

    I am hopeful that we now have a capable OC who has his team ready to recognize and exploit the ND defense. So maybe the first series will be like any other (I assume) - make the reads and call what should work against it.

    I am from a similar coaching tree as you. :smile1:
     
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  3. militaryhorn

    militaryhorn Prediction Contest Manager

    Whatever that touchdown call is called...
     
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  4. Horns11

    Horns11 10,000+ Posts

    Wishbone. Bluiett at TE and Humphrey at WR but split close. QB would be Duvernay, backs would be Warren, Heard, and P-Hud at FB. Fake the dive to P-Hud, who annihilates about 3 D-Linemen. Option left, quick pitch to Heard. Heard doubles back and throws across the field but behind his line to Humphrey. Humphrey looks around for Duvernay, who was supposed to run a fade after he did the original pitch, but he was so fast that he's already downfield in the end zone and Lil'Jordan can't throw that far. So he takes off running with Warren plowing the way. At about the 45 yard line, Humphrey decides it's time for the next level, so he pitches it to Bluiett who was crossing behind. Bluiett shows off his 4.3 speed that was handicapped last year because of injuries. He makes it all the way down to the ND 10 yard line, where he's finally stood up by numerous ND DBs and LBs. As a last ditch effort, Bluiett tosses the ball back to Heard, who has to dash around and make quick decisions about where to dive for the end zone. Just when he's about to go down at the 1, he sees a rumbling P-Hud coming to save the day. Heard gingerly places the ball on the ground, as if a fumblerooskie, and P-Hud's 330-pound frame dives for the ball. There's a pile-up. Bodies everywhere. The ref comes over and can't tell who has the ball or if it's over the goal line. After pulling about 16 bodies off the pile, they finally see the truth: Swoopes was wearing Vahe's jersey all along, and he's holding the ball with the tip over the goal line. TD. The refs declare Texas the winner because there's no chance of replicating that kind of allsome for the remaining 59 minutes.
     
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  5. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 10,000+ Posts

    If it is a bubble screen half of the crowd will head to the exit.
     
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  6. WorsterMan

    WorsterMan SEC here we come!!

    Believe I heard CS say in his press conference he will pick a starter and then stay with him. Something like he is not going to flip flop on QB's. I could be dead wrong, but that told me he HAS picked a starting QB and his name is Buechele.

    So with that in mind, I am thinking this:

    1st down: 2 wides & 1 slot receiver, Warren at RB, called off tackle running play over Conner Williams to get the first game hit out of the way. See how the Irish defend it in that formation.

    2nd down: Depending on D formation - draw play or called pass play - emphasize over and over to SB, not to force the pass (adrenaline). Look for Bluiett in the flat or on a wheel route.

    3rd down: Depends on yardage needed for 1st down, but run / pass option to the wide side of the field. Look for Burt or Heard on a crossing pattern.

    4th down: hope there is not one...
     
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  7. Detective Shilala

    Detective Shilala 2,500+ Posts

    I will add: Boo almost throws to Heard but he only freezes the safety and finds Johnson streaking down the field in one on one coverage.

    I believe this is the one Military Horn was thinking of.
     
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  8. beer_dog

    beer_dog 100+ Posts

    The first play of the game should be a test to see if the defense is playing zone or man on first downs. I would send a man in motion if the DB follows him get ready for a deep pass, if they stay in position run it up the gut.
     
  9. BevoQ

    BevoQ 250+ Posts

    Run for a few yards on a power run, short 4 yard high percentage pass, run for the first down on 3rd and short. Start punching them in the face early.
     
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  10. WorsterMan

    WorsterMan SEC here we come!!

    Bingo!
     
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  11. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    False keys. Once MLB is totally confused and has shown he'll be outa position more times than a fat lady in the circus, the middle of the field will be open. With our outside speed, ND goes cover three, leaving the tight end open both short and deep. Otherwise, pound the ball and use the 95 degree heat to our advantage.

    Of course, for this to work, Bedford's defense has to show up, or we just run the clock to keep the score down.
     
  12. WorsterMan

    WorsterMan SEC here we come!!

    Huge factor in the game!

    It starts with the DL - they must handle / slow the ND running game or it will be a long game.
     
  13. Statalyzer

    Statalyzer 10,000+ Posts

    The 10 yard MINIMUM play.
     
  14. mb227

    mb227 de Plorable

    half?

    Some won't even bother going through the turnstiles...
     
  15. Driver 8

    Driver 8 Amor Fati

    I'm calling some Chris Warren on your gold dome asses

     
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  16. majorwhiteapples

    majorwhiteapples 5,000+ Posts

    Give the ball to Foreman, again and again and again....throw in a little Warren and little Porter. then Foreman again again and again.....do not stop giving him the ball!!!!
     
  17. BevoQ

    BevoQ 250+ Posts

    If we are going to win we are going to have to hit some passes to move the chains. But I agree, if we can run the ball, run the damn ball
     
  18. majorwhiteapples

    majorwhiteapples 5,000+ Posts

    Gilbert will run run run and then go deep run run run run and then go deep run run run and then go deep.......
     
  19. majorwhiteapples

    majorwhiteapples 5,000+ Posts

    Actually, that is what I want Gilbert to do.....he is going to attack every part of the field...he wants to spread out the defense and get one on one matchups.....He will bubble screen, run outs ins deep outs deep ins and just deep runs right runs left runs outside both ways he attacks every part of the field to get one on one matchups
     
  20. Detective Shilala

    Detective Shilala 2,500+ Posts

    And do it snapping the ball every 11 seconds... I read another poster say that if its close in the third quarter we win. I agree and this is why.
     
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  21. BevoJoe

    BevoJoe 10,000+ Posts

    Absolutely! Early and often, like every play.
     
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  22. dukesteer

    dukesteer 5,000+ Posts

    Well, I have some inside information (inside my own head that is) so here goes:

    First of all, Buechele is the QB. Bet the house on that.

    They line up in a power set...or whatever they call that in Gilbert's offense...giving every indication that the call will be a run. After all, it's the first play of the true freshman's career.

    There are two tight ends and Foreman in the backfield. Duvernay is in the slot to the left, and Burt spread out near the sideline on the right.

    Buechele takes the snap and adroitly fakes a draw...or whatever they call it in Gilbert's offense...freezing the D-line for a moment and the LBs. While this is happening Burt does a sharp cross about 10 yards down, but Duvernay just lollygags out about seven and looks for someone to block, or pretends to...

    After the fake, Buechele drops back but begins to feel the pressure. At the same time, Duvernay, after lulling the DBs to sleep, turns on the jets. He is running a post route at full speed, streaking down the center of the field. The fans can see it and many are already hyperventilating. (Heck, I'm hyperventilating just disclosing now what is going to happen in 3 days, 1 hour, 53 minutes and 3 seconds.)

    Without even seeing Duvernay, Buechele knows where he is going, so he heaves it as far as he can...

    After about two seconds of dead silent anticipation we hear the stadium erupt as Duvernay has separated from the safety. He hauls in the perfect pass and crosses the north end zone as Smokey goes off.

    Take it to the bank.
     
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  23. OldHippie

    OldHippie 2,500+ Posts

    Would it be better to call "the touchdown play" to begin each drive, or multiple "10 yard minimum offense" plays and relentlessly march down the field on each possession?

    I personally think the "10 yard minimum offense" drives would protect our defense from being on the field too long. Also the total yards allowed defensive stats might turn out pretty ugly and the fan base could become irate even though we would win the game, like, 150 to 50.
     
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  24. Creek

    Creek 1,000+ Posts

    I was under the assumption this O doesn't call plays. Just reacts to D formations?
     
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  25. Dionysus

    Dionysus Idoit Admin

    We need @Hpslugga to explain how it works.
     
  26. mb227

    mb227 de Plorable

    so long as we never see plays like this again, I could almost be happy...

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    or worse...
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  27. Hpslugga

    Hpslugga 2,500+ Posts

    There's a portion of the offense that does operate on the concept called "RPO." RPO, or "run/pass option" is an old concept that simply means if the defensive alignment permits, there's gonna be a quick throw to some receiver (I talked in the past about the Crawfish Series, which is a classic RPO).

    But of course not all plays are RPO and for a good reason: they can't. This offense has a 2nd level passing game. Those plays take time to develop. Illegal man downfield penalties would be called rampantly (even in the Big 12).

    Most times, they're called plays. It's definitely true that they don't use a playbook, but that's because they're always tweaking stuff. Maybe a pulling tackle has to hit a different space or a receiver has to run a different route. Maybe they have to change blocking schemes on a particular play because the D is playing a front scheme that makes it difficult to execute if run the original way or they've got some bad *** that needs to be double teamed.

    The point is just because they don't have a playbook doesn't mean they're playing backyard football. They do have set plays and they rep the **** out of them in practice so that they can almost effortlessly execute them even against elite defenses
     
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  28. X Misn Tx

    X Misn Tx 2,500+ Posts

    we're gonna run the picket fence at em! and boys, don't get caught watchin the paint dry!
     
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  29. X Misn Tx

    X Misn Tx 2,500+ Posts

    or the fake 23 blast with a backside george reverse like your life depended on it!

    I haven't decided
     
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  30. GeoSteppen

    GeoSteppen 25+ Posts

    We send Buechele out in shotgun. Heard lines up at slot and Swoopes is offset like a running back with Warren back there as well. Sometimes Heard goes out for a pass, sometimes he does a reverse, sometimes he stops mid-reverse to make a pass. Sometimes Swoopes runs it into the line or sometimes a jump pass. And sometimes Buechele will keep it and gut the D like Bob "the Butcher" in Gangs if New York. When they are tired and confused we make it real simple for them. Run Warren Run.
     
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