General Presidential Campaign: Trump vs Hillary

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by mchammer, Jun 20, 2016.

  1. Horns11

    Horns11 10,000+ Posts

    Trump has LITERALLY SAID that he's not going to pay to defend other countries who don't help defray the costs of defending them. But, you know, go ahead and vote for him if this issue isn't big enough to tip the scales.
     
  2. GreenDragonSix

    GreenDragonSix 100+ Posts


    BOOM! Great post "texas_ex2000"

    I just want to add something...

    Who else in the world are always on scene within 12, 24, 48 or 72 hours of a natural disaster and render help? It's the United States Navy and the United States Marine Corps. CAGs and MEUs are always on float in the Med, Atlantic and in several parts of the Pacific on a rotational basis. (texas_ex2000, correct me if I'm wrong)

    What other country can do that???????

    What other country can get on scene anywhere in the world and deliver help, water, food, first aid care???? Russia? China? India? France? Britain?

    Just in my recent memory the United States can be on scene within hours or days because of our naval power exists (besides warfare) to deliver humanitarian help to other countries:

    2004 Indonesian Tsunami
    2010 Haiti Earthquake
    2011 Japanese Tsunami (some sailors suffered radioactive sickness)
    2013 Typhoon Haiyan in the Philippines
     
  3. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    "And what is Aleppo?"

     
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  4. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Hearing loss due to sniper fire?
    Or, was that George Soros feeding her answers?



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  5. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Looks like light reflection to me.
     
  6. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Hey Deez,

    LA Times poll only favors Trump by 1 pt now vs the tradional polls. Very strange. Need to backtrack my claim regarding Clinton +3 is a Trump win.
     
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  7. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Diazepam-pen dude reappeared on her plane
    (at least we know he is still alive)

     
  8. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    Should be interesting to see if we still have Johnson supporters on the board or will they go ahead and pledge allegiance to HRC?
     
  9. Phil Elliott

    Phil Elliott 2,500+ Posts

  10. texas_ex2000

    texas_ex2000 2,500+ Posts

    :confused2:

    First, I am not voting for Trump.

    Second, I said being a superpower (and having 10 carriers) gives us the advantage of deciding where and when to fight AND WHEN NOT TO FIGHT (which may also save you money on a net basis). That saves lives.
     
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  11. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    snap polls on the town hall last night

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  12. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Which was actually worse?

    -- Johnson's Aleppo question?

    Or

    -- HRC's claim that "we did not lose a single American" in Libya? Did she really forget her own people? Or, did she simply dismiss them?


     
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  13. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    LOL -- Reporter to Clinton: If Trump is so bad, shouldn’t you be ‘running away’ with election?


    "A reporter asked Hillary Clinton at a press conference Thursday morning why the presidential race was so close, considering her characterization of Trump as dangerous and unqualified to hold the Oval Office.

    "Madam Secretary, the latest RealClearPolitics average has you up by an average of 2.8 percentage points over Donald Trump," the reporter said.

    The reporter continued: "Given what you say are his historic inadequacies and his disqualification on the commander-in-chief point that you just made, shouldn't you just be pretty much running away with it at this point? ..... "

    http://www.businessinsider.com/clinton-trump-close-poll-numbers-press-conference-2016-9
     
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  14. texas_ex2000

    texas_ex2000 2,500+ Posts

    It amazes me how Hillary Clinton, obviously an extremely well prepared intelligent person with a manical attention to detail AND A JD FROM YALE LAW SCHOOL, is randomly stupid about e-mail and national security procedures. How is someone that cares so much about her communications and puts so much time and hires so many people to set up her personal server and methodically destroys her equipment and messages SO IGNORANT ABOUT CLASSIFIED MATERIAL PROCEDURES?

    Watching her look right in the camera and lie to us makes me sick to my stomach.
     
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  15. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  16. Htown77

    Htown77 5,000+ Posts

    I think that is what the Kaiser said about the German Empire's naval building program about a decade before the first world war.
     
  17. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    That should tell you why she rarely does press conferences.
     
  18. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Horn 11
    Are you saying other countries should not help defray the cost of us defending them.
     
  19. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    She wasn't ignorant. She didn't give a crap. Her main priority was to circumvent FOIA. That's why she had the server. She was indifferent to all other concerns.
     
  20. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    Obvious
    Your are obviously a sexist for questioning this.
     
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  21. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Asking what Aleppo is doesn't bother me as much as his sloppy non-answer on what to do about Syria. Frankly, Johnson has disappointed me ever since he chose Weld as his running mate. Weld isn't a libertarian, and ever since he became the VP pick, Johnson has emphasized his social liberalism, which is where I have the most disagreement with him.

    If I bail on Johnson, I won't go with Hillary. I'll vote for Evan McMullin if he's on the ballot. If he's not, I may write in Hollandtx or NJLonghorn.
     
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  22. NJlonghorn

    NJlonghorn 2,500+ Posts

    If nominated I will not accept, and if elected I will not serve.
     
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  23. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Johnson's response was just as bad as Trump's "I know more than the Generals about ISIS" or him more recent "I'll demand a plan within 30 days to eliminate ISIS within a year". The difference between the 2 is how they reacted to their idiotic statements. Johnson immediately put out a statement recognizing his faupaux and humbly restating his answers. Trump continues on with additional bravado and surrogates that follow behind to "translate" his dumb statements typically moderating his stances.
     
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  24. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    I am pretty sure there are plans to take on ISIS already.
    BO has not asked for them
     
  25. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    You could not honestly believe that. You really have a problem with the POTUS demanding a plan within 30 days to address a world security problem? You want him to take more time or less time with the demand?
     
  26. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Still preferred over Hillary.
     
  27. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Clinton also said at last night's forum -- "We are not putting ground troops into Iraq ever again and we are not putting ground troops into Syria.”

    We, of course, already have ~ 4500 US troops currently on the ground in Iraq, with more on the way.

    And we also have admitted to having ~300 US special forces on the ground in Syria.
     
  28. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  29. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Frankly, I haven't heard anyone give a good answer on Syria. Nobody wants to come across as doing nothing at all, because everybody knows ISIS is dangerous and fears them. However, nobody wants to call for ground troops, because the public doesn't want that. The problem is that it's highly unlikely that anybody will destroy ISIS without ground troops.
     
  30. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Magellan Strategies Colorado Poll:

    Hillary leads with Hispanics 44-33

    Obama won CO Hispanics 70-27
     

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