i was thinking the same thing......... the same people that want charlie gone think Herman is the savior but he's lost to Connecticut and now Navy.....but I'm sure for those people there are excuses for Herman.
His losing to Navy is the best thing that could possibly have happened for those who would like to see Herman as our next HC. Perhaps most importantly, it means that Herman could very likely be available in December instead of having to wait (for him) until January and after the playoffs start. That potential and major complication has been eliminated.
Yes, I know that. So you are giving Herman a pass for losing to navy? A FAR inferior team to Houston which is the exact same thing Charlie has had a problem with. I'm not advocating really for either one at this point. I think charlie can coach but he's running out of time very, very quickly.
Naw just making the point that if a UT Herman coached team was #6 and lost to Navy, the gloom and doom bunch would jump at the chance to complain. AND. Rather Strong stays or leaves and regardless of who takes over, it's simply a matter of time until 'we' call for his head. Akers, Macovic, Brown, Strong...just names to be ridiculed by folks who would last less than a month in their shoes. "We have all the answers"- we say ..feet propped up with a Bud light and pizza slice in one hand -remote in the other . Oh yeah, Fire Whistlebritches in Fort Worth as well, to almost lose to KU? Unacceptable, he simply must go.
Sorry to pick on you NR but, if I may ask, what have you seen over Strong's first 30 games (not a small sample size, by the way) that give you reason to be encouraged, or confident that he can succeed in the job?
No offense taken, Duke. Integrity, recruiting, an offense (how quickly we forget) and integrity. We wanted to keep Muschamp, how's that going? Apple white, while we loved him, simply had to go- UH says thank you very much. We ran off Manny- well I'll be darned, seems to be doing well. It is a carousel and even though I get that I'm in a minority, I think patience will get us out if this a lot faster than "the next" savior.
Damn right they are! My son almost played there. I took him to their football camp in 2014...the talent there was most impressive. Coach K is a hell of a coach. They compete at a very high level, given the talent pool they are limited to. Those players have to keep up a military regimen, play football, maintain good grades, etc. It is a grueling life for those kids. So, don't think losing to USNA is somehow shameful!!
Losing one game a year and losing seven games a year is not the same thing. It is not like Strong loses a game once in awhile and everyone jumps on him for that one loss. So far he has lost more games every season he has coached than he has won. We have lost 3 in a row now against teams with two or more losses.
Doesn't Herman has a very tough final game against Louisville? UofH must have a heck of an AD, Briles, Sumlin and now Herman.
I guess cheating, by others entered into the equation. He was fired because he started losing after the near miss NC in '83. Sorry about your brother. If we put the draft back in, a lot of these wars would end.
This basically! I think that many people never wanted Strong in the first place and so any evidence of failure is enough for them to fire him, however, as you stated here all of these folks have either had success before AND AFTER they left here! hhhhhhmmmmmmm.....and Herman just got beat by a far inferior team but that is the next savior? Strong was just as good at Louisville as Herman is now, in fact i would argue that Louisville was better.
He has lost more games than he has won every year. The opposite is true of this quote. Some people are trying to find any evidence of success and that is good enough for them. I have not even decided that I necessarily want Herman as our next guy because it is too early in the season for me to survey coaches. However, these type of threads have run their course. Charlie Strong is doing so bad this year in year 3, he deserves to be fired if this season continues in the direction it is headed.
What would be more appropriate and humorous would be starting a "Keep Charlie Forever" thread if we beat Iowa State poking fun at the "always charlies."
We are 2-3. We beat 2-4 Notre Dame. We beat 1-5 UTEP. We lost to 2-3 California. We lost to 4-2 Oklahoma State. We lost to 3-2 Oklahoma. We are 2-3 against this terrible schedule and we only have wins against 4 or more loss teams.... but if we beat 1-5 Iowa State this week some will shout "keep charlie forever!"
Htown, you typically have good, fact based posts, but this one is pure exaggeration. IMO, at most, IF we beat ISU, you may have some folks take the, "let's see how the rest of the season plays out" stance.
Beating ISU will change no ones already set opinion, even with an improving ISU squad. Winning out though, well that is a different story, but who believes that even a possibility now? We may hope but who would bet on it, I mean really.
You hit the nail with an "improving ISU team" That's what coaching does. Can you say the same thing about the 'Horns?
We need to put a few baseless arguments to bed: > Few if any would argue that Charlie Strong is not a good man and a role model. > Few if any would argue that CS is not an excellent recruiter. > Few would argue that CS is not liked by his players. The question, then, is whether or not CS can succeed at Texas, and bring us back to national prominence. That is, unless being a good man, a good leader and a great recruiter is enough for you. It is not for me. As I mentioned above, 30 games is enough of a sample for me to draw a hard conclusion. After what I have observed -- much of which has defied belief, to now think that Strong is the right coach for this program and that he can turn this thing around has no basis in reality. Much of being an effective HC has to do with decision-making. Whether it has been staff decisions, pregame preparation, in-game adjustments or in-game decision-making, I have virtually no reason to believe he can achieve what we are all hoping for here. Respectfully, I have to say that those who believe CS can turn this thing around are basing that assessment on wishful thinking. They are looking at the situation with their heart, not their head. Such opinions are simply not fact or performance based. I believe the argument to be moot at this point. That is, unless the inconceivable occurs, and that we see a different team for the rest of the season. I believe CS will be relieved of his duties at the end of the season...that it is now a foregone conclusion.
