Black Lives Matter; The Cerebral Warlords of Our Time

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  1. Statalyzer

    Statalyzer 10,000+ Posts

    It may be only a few such "bad actors", but the problem is that hardly any of the others are calling out those few, and as a general rule they protect them and/or enable them.
     
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  2. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  3. Crockett

    Crockett 5,000+ Posts

    I think most of the money that goes into politics is used to spread half-truth and twisted truth. On the positive side, the electorate has finally caught on that "paid political advertising" means 'what your hearing is not exactly unvarnished truth" and millions of dollars hardly moves the needle in a high profile election.
     
  4. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    The data shows the money is more effective at the local level.
     
  5. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  6. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    From the article...understatement of the year? :angry:
     
  7. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    It sucks that he can't see his son, but committing capital murder probably won't fix the situation.
     
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  8. Phil Elliott

    Phil Elliott 2,500+ Posts

    OTOH his son could be able to see his father executed. Some people are just whackadoo.
     
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  9. Hollandtx

    Hollandtx 250+ Posts

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/donal...jamin-marconi-donald-trump-call-police-231767

    I may disagree with many things Trump has done/said, but I stand firmly behind this, 100%. This detective was simply assassinated in his squad car, and honestly, I don't believe this killers reason for a second.
    I think he is already spinning his reason and future defense--oh, it has nothing to do with BLM, or the other attacks on police that "just happened" on the days around this one, it was a case of temporary insanity. The reason makes absolutely zero sense. None.

    I also think his quickie marriage was so the little lady couldn't testify, if I have my "wives can't be force to testify against their spouse" rules correct, from endless hours of watching TV shows about the law. That kind of makes me an honorary lawyer, right? Plus 75% of my friends are attorneys or judges. So yeah, I could probably pass the bar right now. (not really)

    I have mixed emotions about the death penalty, but am for it when the evidence is absolutely black and white, and the crime is so heinous.
    I want this killer to die. That may make me a bad person, but we can't have a country where police can be shot on what is becoming a fairly routine basis and not send a strong message.
    Yeah, Obama, keep talking about the need for black people to express their frustration about the police, in fact, why don't you encourage them to keep protesting and making their message heard...meanwhile the liberals are worried about Nazis and Trump not speaking out strongly enough.
    Maybe you could ask BLM to the White House again.

    My feelings would be just as strong had the shooter been white, or any color by the way. I know there were some white men who recently killed police officers.
    These shootings were lost in the coverage over Trump and his plot to make the USA Nazi Germany. (I find the Nazi situation horrific, don't get me wrong)
    But police are being singled out, now, and Obama has remained fairly silent.
    :facepalm:
     
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  10. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    If that was his rationale, then he didn't read the rules of evidence carefully enough.

    It's not that tough.
     
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  11. NJlonghorn

    NJlonghorn 2,500+ Posts

    Correct. Texas Rule of Evidence 504 states:

    (4) Exceptions. This privilege does not apply: . . . (B) If the spouse is called to testify about matters that occurred before the marriage.​
     
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  12. Phil Elliott

    Phil Elliott 2,500+ Posts

    He shot a cop in front of the police station, or closeby. This guy probably is not real sharp on the finer points of the law.

    I might also add to all you BLMers out there that are obviously not on this board - if this is such a racist nation, and cops are out to murder black men just because, why is this guy still breathing?
     
  13. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Yeah, legal nuance probably isn't his strong suit.
     
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  14. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

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  15. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 2,500+ Posts

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    Black Lives Matter

    yesterday
    Lessons from Fidel: Black Lives Matter and the Transition of El Comandante
    We are feeling many things as we awaken to a world without Fidel Castro. There is an overwhelming sense of loss, complicated by fear and anxiety. Although no leader is without their flaws, we must push back against the rhetoric of the right and come to the defense of El Comandante. And there are lessons that we must revisit and heed as we pick up the mantle in changing our world, as we aspire to build a world rooted in a vision of freedom and the peace that only comes with justice. It is the lessons that we take from Fidel.

    From Fidel, we know that revolution is sparked by an idea, by radical imaginings, which sometimes take root first among just a few dozen people coming together in the mountains. It can be a tattered group of meager resources, like in Sierra Maestro in 1956 or St. Elmo Village in 2013.

    Revolution is continuous and is won first in the hearts and minds of the people and is continually shaped and reshaped by the collective. No single revolutionary ever wins or even begins the revolution. The revolution begins only when the whole is fully bought in and committed to it. And it is never over.

    Revolution transcends borders; the freedom of oppressed people and people of color is all bound up together wherever we are. In Cuba, South Africa, Palestine, Angola, Tanzania, Mozambique, Grenada, Venezuela, Haiti, African America, and North Dakota. We must not only root for each other but invest in each other’s struggles, lending our voices, bodies, and resources to liberation efforts which may seem distant from the immediacy of our daily existence.

    Revolution is rooted in the recognition that there are certain fundamentals to which every being has a right, just by virtue of one’s birth: healthy food, clean water, decent housing, safe communities, quality healthcare, mental health services, free and quality education, community spaces, art, democratic engagement, regular vacations, sports, and places for spiritual expression are not questions of resources, but questions of political will and they are requirements of any humane society.

    Revolution requires that the determination to create and preserve these things for our people takes precedent over individual drives for power, recognition, and enrichment.

    A final lesson is that to be a revolutionary, you must strive to live in integrity. As a Black network committed to transformation, we are particularly grateful to Fidel for holding Mama Assata Shakur, who continues to inspire us. We are thankful that he provided a home for Brother Michael Finney Ralph Goodwin, and Charles Hill, asylum to Brother Huey P. Newton, and sanctuary for so many other Black revolutionaries who were being persecuted by the American government during the Black Power era. We are indebted to Fidel for sending resources to Haiti following the 2010 earthquake and attempting to support Black people in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina when our government left us to die on rooftops and in floodwaters. We are thankful that he provided a space where the traditional spiritual work of African people could flourish, regardless of his belief system.

    With Fidel’s passing there is one more lesson that stands paramount: when we are rooted in collective vision when we bind ourselves together around quests for infinite freedom of the body and the soul, we will be victorious. As Fidel ascends to the realm of the ancestors, we summon his guidance, strength, and power as we recommit ourselves to the struggle for universal freedom. Fidel Vive!


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  16. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Years of Democratic control:

    DC 43 yrs
    Baltimore 49 yrs
    Detroit 55 yrs
    Chicago 85 yrs
    Milwaukee 106 yrs

    How's that working out?
     
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  17. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    Looks like BO and Trudeau wrote that garbage for BLM.
     
  18. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  19. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    I was never a Jon Stewart fan, but Noah is even less talented.
     
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  20. Crockett

    Crockett 5,000+ Posts

    I guess I'm not leftist enough to follow the writer's train of thought. I guess I need a little help understanding how personal freedom is compatible with, much less enhanced, by autocracy.
     
  21. Htown77

    Htown77 5,000+ Posts

    Jon Stewart mixed enough genuine comedy in that I could tolerate segments that were just propaganda with incorrect facts.

    Oliver and Noah are just straight up propaganda segments spreading fake news half the time and do not attempt to inject genuine comedy or do so poorly.

    Personally, I really wanted to see Jessica Williams take over the Daily Show because she was the most talented one there (she would make me laugh even if I completely disagreed with her position). I do not understand how she was passed over for Larry Wilmore and Trevor Noah.

    Real Time with Bill Maher is the only funny political talk show left.
     
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  22. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    And Maher gets ripped for being honest about Islam.
     
  23. Htown77

    Htown77 5,000+ Posts

    He constantly gets into it with his audiance and panelists over it. He is one of the few liberals in the media that seems to logically think that conservative Islam and modern western liberalism are not compatible.
     
  24. ProdigalHorn

    ProdigalHorn 10,000+ Posts

    From what I've observed, leftists measure freedom in things they get, not things they are free to do. Freedom is being in a system where the government pays for everything, keeps people you disagree with from doing things you don't like, and there's no need to voice dissent because the government does whatever you want it to do all the time. I'm not sure they've really thought that through...
     
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  25. Statalyzer

    Statalyzer 10,000+ Posts

    Agree mostly about Stewart (although I still think he pales in comparison to Colbert), Oliver, and Noah, except that Oliver is actually pretty funny sometimes. On the rare moments he goes bipartisan, he's actually good.

    Also mostly agree. One thing I like about Bill Maher is that he unloads on both sides when he sees fit. Even when I disagree with him, he often puts up a strong argument. I still can't decide if he's a dumb smart guy, or a smart dumb guy, though.
     
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  26. Htown77

    Htown77 5,000+ Posts

    This is true. Oliver is indeed a step up from Noah.
     
  27. Brad Austin

    Brad Austin 2,500+ Posts

    Agreed Oliver has a ton of talent when he goes bipartisan, which isn't often.

    However his whacked out leftist segments are typically complete garbage with cherry-picked facts easily debunked by a complete factual inspection of the topic.

    Let's not forget this is the clown who did a segment on Trump's desire to build a wall being an act of racism. :puke:

    Nothing more annoying than a Johnny-come-lately showing up and telling lifers their problems are fake and how to run their own house.
     
  28. Htown77

    Htown77 5,000+ Posts

    That's my problem. He has had some obscure topics that I randomly happened to know quite a bit about and his version of the "facts" was completely wrong and distorted. It does seem like on some issues he is just repeating some nonsense talking points someone has handed him. His show is very hit or miss.
     
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  29. Phil Elliott

    Phil Elliott 2,500+ Posts

    The political discourse on this board is more trustworthy than that on The Daily Show. Or CNN, for that matter.
     
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  30. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

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