General Presidential Campaign: Trump vs Hillary

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by mchammer, Jun 20, 2016.

  1. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    And you're crazy if you think the polls are accurate.
     
  2. I35

    I35 5,000+ Posts

    Were any of those polls from ABC? I seen (and not sure which state) that they only had 27% republicans that participated in their poll.
     
  3. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  4. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Wait...a campaign trying to woo the media? That's clearly insidious. Next you'll tell me that the Trump campaign meets with Fox, Brietbart and others. Oh wait...you won't because it's only a 1-sided game to you.

    If these reporters attended, does that make them dirty? I'm a decision maker for enterprise applications in my company. If I attend a dinner put on by a tech company that I'm interested in hearing more does that make me ethically challenged? If your job is to get the "scoop" maybe it's in their best interest to build a relationship with the campaign.

    This doesn't mean that some aren't dirty as we all know that the campaigns use lazy media to seed stories but I'm not sure this is the indictment the alt-right would like to think it is. It plays well for the conspiracy theorists though.
     
  5. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    He is still packing them in

     
  6. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Combine that list with some of the WikiLeaks releases and it is, indeed, insidious. Some of them submitted their articles to Podesta for prior approval. This is not how a free press works.

    But you, like CNN, would not know this as you both refuse to look at the Wikileaks releases.
     
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  7. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    And if crowd size was indicative of election results, David Lee Roth would have been President of the United States in the '80s instead of Reagan.
     
  8. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Our society has reached a point where TMZ is now a more truthful news source than CNN


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  9. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    So, youre saying, size does not matter?


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  10. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Not a bad video at all

     
  11. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Yes, a few of these individuals have been shown to be way too cozy with the Clinton camp or the DNC. So, indict those as opposed to the entire lot. That is akin to someone taking Sean Hannity's relationship with Trump (buttbuddies?) and claiming it applied to all conservative media.
     
  12. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts


     
  13. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Another peaceful, loving Democrat weighs in --


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  14. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    LOL! Wikileaks is now a media organization. Their agenda is as clear as the one CNN adopted this cycle.
     
  15. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Michael Moore is what James O'Keefe dreams of becoming.
     
  16. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    As Moore is a proven liar, let's hope not
     
  17. Horns11

    Horns11 10,000+ Posts

    Says the guy using polling data to prove his point that the election is close.

    Pulse Opinion Research, CVOTER, PPP, and Reuters/Ipsos. Not that any of them are more reputable than either ABC or Monmouth, but it is 4 vs. 1.
     
  18. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts


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  19. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Speaking of Moore, listen to this. Unbelievable.

     
  20. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  21. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    I assume it does, but I can't say for sure. Ask Milo Yiannopoulos.
     
  22. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    I honestly believe Moore to be a closet Trump supporter. He'd totally blow his street cred with the hard Left to publicly back Trump, and he has gone too far Left to publicly switch to the new populist GOP. However, in the privacy of the voting booth, I guarantee you he's voting for Trump.

    The liberal case against Trump is centered almost entirely on identity politics, and though Moore has gone along with identity politics as a matter of obligation, it has never been what Moore is about. He has always been about the blue collar middle class that has fallen through the cracks and has been publicly supportive of pro-labor, economic nationalism. That's what he grew up around, and that's what has always motivated him. Furthermore, he has never liked the Clintons and other corporate Democrats, frankly because they screwed over and sold out people like him.
     
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  23. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    ouch
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  24. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    this guy is a little like the Chuck F'n Strong of this election
    except he is a real person
    an Obama

     
  25. I35

    I35 5,000+ Posts

    One problem you aren't mentioning is wikileaks is based on facts of dems own words when the other is trying to cover up those facts.
     
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  26. I35

    I35 5,000+ Posts

    Arizona's latest poll by CNN just included only 20% republican and 56% democrats even though there are more republican voters in that state.
     
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  27. Horns11

    Horns11 10,000+ Posts

    I don't see any CNN state polls for Arizona.
     
  28. HornHuskerDad

    HornHuskerDad 5,000+ Posts

    I'm about ready to put Michael Moore into the same category as Jane Fonda.
     
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  29. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Bobama the liar
    Even this Clinton aides calls him out for it (internally, of course)

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  30. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Isn't James O'Keefe a proven liar too? If so, he's on his way.
     

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