General Presidential Campaign: Trump vs Hillary

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by mchammer, Jun 20, 2016.

  1. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    Well I guess, emphasis on guess, she may not have when she was the opponent but she sure talks her up now. Ahhhhh, politics, one might say it makes strange bedfellows.
     
  2. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts


    Michelle cant stand any of the Clintons
    You have to respect her for that
     
  3. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  4. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    LOL -- most entertaining election ever
    She was caught by the Weiner

    And why was he getting classified docs in the first place?

     
  5. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  6. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    If so, this is historical. For the first time ever, Weiner is undefeated.
     
  7. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Hillary is not having the best of days

     
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  8. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Carlos Danger just schlonged Hillary
     
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  9. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Trump back in Aug 2015
    Looks like he may have gotten it right
    Of course, the media mocked him for this at the time

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  10. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

  11. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    They will just say, big deal, it was 6 years ago lol. Even though the 11 years ago Trump tape is relevant now to them.
     
  12. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts



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  13. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    I've never believed the FBI had become political but rather calling balls and strikes as they see them. This would be evidence that they aren't.
     
  14. Phil Elliott

    Phil Elliott 2,500+ Posts

    If HRC would be arrested before election day, this would be bad. DNC drafts Joe Biden to take her place, all the voters on both sides begging for someone other than HRC and DJT are satiated, game over for GOP.
     
  15. Clean

    Clean 5,000+ Posts

    The bad news is there's no way the FBI will take any significant action against Hillary until long after the election. And, once she's elected, she's practically invulnerable. Even if impeached, the Dems will acquit her in the Senate, no matter what they find. There's no disgracing a Clinton. They won't do the honorable thing and resign like Nixon did.

    It's up to the American people now.
     
  16. I35

    I35 5,000+ Posts

    GAME CHANGER!!!! This is much bigger than watergate.
     
  17. Horns11

    Horns11 10,000+ Posts

    I'd like Trump (or anyone repeating him) to explain how this is bigger than Watergate.
     
  18. I35

    I35 5,000+ Posts

    I'd like to hear why it's not? Of course either side will be just an opinion.
     
  19. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    Wow. So you think republican operatives breaking into DNC offices to obtain election intelligence and trying to cover it up is bigger than covering up illegal activities, lying to congress and the FBI as well as exposing national classified data to hackers? Good god Bill, you are a multi millionaire. Let her go to jail and you can lead the post presidential life you always dreamed of...
     
  20. Horns11

    Horns11 10,000+ Posts

    The break-in wasn't why it was such a big deal. It was the privilege that Nixon proclaimed and his creative staffing of key characters that were involved with the cover-up.

    The illegal activities and exposing data stuff has been debunked several times over. The Congress part is more iffy as to whether or not she believed she was lying at the time. Nixon was definitely lying, hence the Saturday Night Massacre and other key parts of that scandal.
     
  21. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    Yes it was the cover up. Are you saying there is no cover up in this investigation? If so, why in the world would so many people plead the 5th and get immunity? You have to be smarter than that if you graduated from The University.
     
  22. Horns11

    Horns11 10,000+ Posts

    The cover-up that HRC is involved in doesn't have a couple of the major aspects that Watergate did. Nixon's false executive privilege, firing key staffers who were trying to do the right thing, the Senate unanimously voting to subpoena info, etc. The Watergate scandal might have started as a partisan effort to discredit Nixon, but it became an all-out assault from every direction. HRC hasn't claimed any privilege in working in the State Dept. She hasn't fired anyone (that we know about) who has revealed any of the info.

    Two dudes have pleaded the 5th, and according to the redacted stuff that has been released, one had his "oh **** moment" and bleachbit the hell out of the emails he knew about. There's no evidence that HRC told him to do it, like there was with Nixon and the portions of missing tapes. He pleaded the 5th because of his own ***, not HRC's.
     
  23. theiioftx

    theiioftx Sponsor Deputy

    More than one has pleaded the 5th. And you believe that, on his own, he decided to violate federal law and risk jail because of an Oh S*** moment to customer service? Really?

    Off topic, but I have beachfront property for sale in Arizona. Interested?
     
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  24. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    You can play around with assumptions on this map.
    But if this red/blue breakdown on this one holds, then Trump would have to win one of the green states or two of the pink states to get to 270 --


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  25. Horns11

    Horns11 10,000+ Posts

    I think he did what anyone who may or may not have accidentally violated federal law would do. Have an "oh **** moment."

    The guys from Platte River Networks had no idea about how secure the server was, so they tried to cover their own tracks regarding moving the server to a third party. If this is the smoking gun that proves HRC violated laws, then good for the people who wish to indict her. I think it's more of an indictment of PRN and their inability to do what they should have been doing all along.
     
  26. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    This is all more about Huma than Anthony
    but he is what makes it all so much funnier


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  27. Horns11

    Horns11 10,000+ Posts

    Wait... if the breakdown "holds" on that map? You have several red ones that aren't "held" at the moment. Are you implying that states with +7 HRC currently will become red because of today's news? Or is this an internal polling one from Kellyanne?
     
  28. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    I may have to take this part back
    Turns out Judicial Watch filed a lawsuit over that meeting

    http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-...on-tarmac-meeting-bill-clinton-loretta-lynch/
     
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  29. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    As already noted, you can adjust the assumptions on that map to suit yourself
     
  30. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Those chubs just did what they were told to do.
     

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