I finally agree with Finebaum

Discussion in 'On The Field' started by The Eyes of Texas, Feb 3, 2017.

  1. Dionysus

    Dionysus Idoit Admin

    I agree with this as a matter of fairness to the innocent parties. The death penalty is extreme. But as a symbolic measure and a precedent/warning to other institutions I think it could be justified here because the transgressions were so heinous.
     
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  2. accuratehorn

    accuratehorn 10,000+ Posts

    http://deadspin.com/lawsuit-text-messages-show-how-baylor-coaches-turned-f-1791947070

    While it is not the role of the NCCA to prosecute felonies, this lawsuit has uncovered areas in which the NCAA can operate. Baylor overlooked academic fraud and clearly had a culture of noncompliance with NCAA rules.
    It appears numerous felonies have been ignored to benefit the athletic department at Baylor, and that a massive cover-up of those crimes has occurred at numerous levels of lower and upper administration.
    I agree that they should not be rewarded for their behavior by allowing them to remain in the Big 12.
     
  3. blonthang

    blonthang 2,500+ Posts

    If I was a scholarship football player, say at Baylor, who had NOTHING to do with the atrocities that went on, and if/when Baylor gets slammed, I'd consider going for a class action lawsuit against the NCAA.

    Entered college on promise of playing football, and all the work that goes with that, with express promise of future opportunities, only to lose those due to others' actions.

    Arrest, try, and lock up the perps, why punish the majority of others who had squat to do with it?

    Maybe could result in final collapse of NCAA?
     
  4. accuratehorn

    accuratehorn 10,000+ Posts

    Because it wasn't just a few individuals who committed crimes, it was also the complicity of the Baylor Athletic department, campus police, administration and board of regents who covered up crimes and coerced victims to not press charges. The innocent Baylor scholarship athletes can feel free to sue Baylor, but they can forget trying to blame the NCAA for Baylor's numerous rules violations. Of course, they can sue anyone for anything, but they would be in the wrong if they tried to blame the NCAA for any of Baylor's mess.
     
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  5. Driver 8

    Driver 8 Amor Fati

    More you say? Ok more

     
  6. Driver 8

    Driver 8 Amor Fati

  7. X Misn Tx

    X Misn Tx 2,500+ Posts

    I do understand your point. I think in between is the notion of an institutional culture. It's big business. And if the school leadership turned a blind eye or choice to interpret things based on their own benefit, then the organization should have consequences.
    If it's found that the coaches ran a renegade culture without the school having ANY knowledge, then I agree with you. Amputate the limb without killing the body.
     
  8. 4th_floor

    4th_floor Dude, where's my laptop?

    Do smear the Branch Davidians by associating them with Rapelor.
     
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  9. Statalyzer

    Statalyzer 10,000+ Posts

    The state Attorney General's office should be investigating the Waco and Baylor PD's, but the Texas AG is a Baylor grad.
     
  10. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Which is why the Rangers (badge and gun; not baseball bat) are usually tasked with that duty.
     
  11. JustWin

    JustWin 250+ Posts

    I hear TX Rangers are busy looking for the super bowl jersey.
     
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  12. rick mueller

    rick mueller Burnt Orange Bleeder

    As much as I hate to see the feds get involved in anything, that is probably the only way that anyone gets held accountable in this situation. According to people who live in and around Waco, it is the most corrupt system north of Mexico.
     
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  13. easy

    easy 2,500+ Posts

  14. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 10,000+ Posts

    So no punishment from the Big XII.
     
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  15. X Misn Tx

    X Misn Tx 2,500+ Posts

    depending on the type of revenue, this could be a big deal for the school. if it's 25% of gross revenues, that would be a big chunk of the school's budget. 2 years ago Baylor was #22 in the country in sports revenues with $106.1m. If the B12 takes about $27m, that's a lot of money to their bottom line.
     
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  16. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Viper,

    Puuleeease! This is huge for the Las Colinas Cretin Corp. Sad part is that they really think they have made a statement. Kinda of like telling your child, "If you don't stop breaking glasses, I'm going to give you a five minute timeout during which you will not get a single glass to throw".

    If The University of Texas and the Big XII NEVER employees anyone from Cali-prune-ya again, I would be deliriously happy.
     

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