The First 100 days

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by theiioftx, Nov 10, 2016.

  1. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    "Erasing national borders... undermines democracy and trades away prosperity."

    Apparently the line to get in to see Trump was ~ a mile long


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  2. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  3. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Imagine hating America and Americans as much as this HuffPo tweeter
    This is so pathetic I fear I may be beginning to feel sorry for lefties

    This is the guy that showed up at 4am
     
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  4. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  5. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts


     
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  6. BrntOrngStmpeDe

    BrntOrngStmpeDe 1,000+ Posts

    I understand the sentiment but our legal immigration flow is roughly 1.2 million a year. And many of the LEGAL variety come here as a family unit, meaning they aren't going to be the chain citizenship issue that so many of the illegal variety are. The 40 million + 40 million you speak of, is a result of illegal immigration. I'm all for stopping that as much as legislatively, economically and physically possible. I'm also for changing the proportion of LEGAL immigration slots that we hold open. From what I can tell, roughly 1/3 of the slots go to "family" considerations. I think that portion should be downsized and priority should be given to economic/skilled employess that may actually add to the system immediately.

    My other concern is that going after immigration on every front (refugees, legal and illegal immigration) really does start to alienate everyone. If you leave a relatively robust LEGAL option then you can rightly argue that you aren't against immigrants but only ILLEGAL and/or unsafe immigration practices.

    Heck POTUS is already starting to backpedal on DACA. I'm starting to think we've got another GOP in the WH that's going to backpedal on everything but his pro-business tax cuts and deregulation.
     
  7. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Uh...1 million legal immigrants per year for 40 years is 40 million. Only 10 million illegals. I stand by my original post.
     
  8. BrntOrngStmpeDe

    BrntOrngStmpeDe 1,000+ Posts

    We haven't been at 1MM for 40 years, however...you might have a point. I'd advocated before that we should base our annual LEGAL immigration on employment statistics and/or wage growth, but perhaps another measure should be the overall percentage of first gen immigrants in our country. I would argue that a substantial portion of the first generation immigrants (even if they are now in LEGAL status), started out as illegal immigrants and/or are the result of illegal parents that now have a legal offspring and curtailing illegal immigration would resolve most of our issues. However, I would agree that the proportion of immigrants (legal or not) is too high.
     
  9. Phil Elliott

    Phil Elliott 2,500+ Posts

    If immigrants were not allowed to vote for 20 years, the left would drop them as a constituency tomorrow.
     
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  10. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    It gets increasingly difficult to have a debate with you when you never bring your own numbers or facts to the conversation. Here is an article that claims each trip costs "$3M or more". The $97M was a reference to an article that Joe Fan posted previously which I believe was ultimately sourced from Judicial Watch.

    If you follow the WaPo and Politico links, they say that the $3M estimate is based on costs gleaned from a similar trip that Obama took.

    That's pure partisan bias. Obama's golf outings were used by his critics to demonstrate that he was lazy. Now that Trump's golfing trips exceed his predecessor the argument shifts. Oh, and yes Obama did have 3 outings with world leaders and had the much publicized golf outing with John Boehner.
     
  11. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    NBC anchor Katy Tur either doesnt know what Obama said to the Russians in 2012, or is lying about it
    Either way, not a good look.
    And, of course, she ends the conversation there

     
  12. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

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  13. 4th_floor

    4th_floor Dude, where's my laptop?

  14. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    Cut her some slack. Her "dad" is Zoey Tur, and she dated Keith Olbermann for a while. No doubt she's screwed up.
     
  15. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Yeah, "dad" becoming "mom" would be enough to screw anyone up. Katy Tur doesn't come across as smart enough to remember the incident yet feign ignorance.
     
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  16. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

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  17. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    a span of 24 hours

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  18. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    ditto for Very Fake News ....

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  19. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Uh...those items are not mutually exclusive. Both can be true.

    As an aside, have you been watching the full blown meltdown by Paul Joseph Watson on Twitter? Twitter caught him posting some fake pictures stolen from a myriad of non-Sweden riots (i.e. Poland 2008) then responds with this:


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    He's literally reposted the same blog to back up his premise of a rise in Swedish crime 4 times. Between Sweden and his defense of Milo, he's in 100% cardiac arrest mode.
     
  20. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  21. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  22. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    "Poll: Americans overwhelmingly oppose sanctuary cities"

    80 percent of voters say local authorities should have to comply with the law by reporting to federal agents the illegal immigrants they come into contact with.

    A majority — 52 percent — say they support Trump’s two executive orders allowing for the construction of a southern border wall, increasing the number of immigration officers by 10,000 and finding a way to revoke federal funds for sanctuary cities.

    The crackdown on sanctuary cities is the most popular feature of those actions, followed closely by the directive to increase the border patrol, which is backed by 75 percent of voters.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...ricans-overwhelmingly-oppose-sanctuary-cities
     
  23. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Congressional Republicans dont seem to know what they are doing

     
  24. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    This is one of the points I tried to make when trying to talk NeverTrumpers into doing the right thing

     
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  25. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  26. Phil Elliott

    Phil Elliott 2,500+ Posts

    "Deconstruction of the administrative state" - I cannot believe we have a WH admin that will even say these words. Pinch me, I must be dreaming!
     
  27. NJlonghorn

    NJlonghorn 2,500+ Posts

    Is that supposed to be a Donald Trump doll? It looks more like Dick Gephardt to me.
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  28. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    A new low?

    Spicer cancelled today's press conference and held a "gaggle" instead. This time they chose to specifically exclude CNN, NYT, LAT, Politico, Buzzfeed and most of the foreign press corps. All the conservative sources were allowed in.

    This was in response to a report that Priebus called the Deputy Secretary of the FBI McCabe to request a the FBI to weigh in publicly on the Trump Campaign - Russia connection news.

    Trump didn't call this fake news but lambasted the FBI for the leaks.

    Here are Brett Baier's thoughts:
     
  29. Crockett

    Crockett 5,000+ Posts

    One officer being injured during a riot over a drug arrest in Sweden is a news item in the US. I wonder how much attention the Swedish media would pay if, heaven forbid, something like that happened in the US?
     
  30. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Your comment reminds me of something Clayton Williams might have joked about. Sweden should "just relax and enjoy it."
     
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