Perry vs Aggy

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by Vol Horn 4 Life, Mar 25, 2017.

  1. Vol Horn 4 Life

    Vol Horn 4 Life Good Bye To All The Rest!

    Not sure where this belongs, but the Secretary of Energy is blaming Aggy U of altering their election outcome for the sake of having it's first gay student body president. The real vote winner was disqualified because he didnt disclose some glow sticks used during the campaign. Seems petty to take away a life long honor because of a couple glow stick. I wonder if he had something to gain by not disclosing? Bizarre!!

    Did the extreme leftwing nuts scare Aggy enough to make this happen so they'd go away? Aggy claims to treat all students equally...ask Johnny if he was treated like every other student......nope!


    http://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-...ion-openly-gay-student-body-president-n737701
     
  2. Mr. Deez

    Mr. Deez Beer Prophet

    To be honest, I didn't care about student government elections even when I was a student, and I care much less about them now. Accordingly, I don't know much about the rules.

    Nevertheless, I'm sure political correctness is involved. It seems like a very minor violation to overturn an election, and the gays would be more pissed off than they were when Will & Grace went off the air if the roles were reversed and the gay dude had his victory completely taken away from him.

    Furthermore, I am not aware of any scenario in real elections in which awarding victory to the loser is the appropriate remedy. Usually the remedy for campaign finance violations of whatever type is a civil fine or perhaps a criminal penalty. The winner may be removed through an expulsion, recall, or impeachment process, but the loser doesn't get to take office. If there's a secondary office (like VP), that person takes office, and if there isn't, the position is vacant until someone can appoint a person to complete the term or a special election can be held.
     
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  3. Clean

    Clean 5,000+ Posts

    Glow sticks? Was he using them to mock gays or something?
     
  4. UTChE96

    UTChE96 2,500+ Posts

    I am so glad Perry went to A&M not Texas. He is such an embarrassment. Even if you believe that the student government election was rigged, it is not something that a public official should care about and certainly not comment on. The whole story (including Perry's involvement) is so trivial and so absurd. Just another reminder, there is no such thing as an aggie joke.
     
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  5. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    If an aggy hides a glow stick up his rectum where nobody can see it, does it still glow?
     
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  6. UTChE96

    UTChE96 2,500+ Posts

    Can't see anything glowing in this picture but it's bright outside.

    [​IMG]
     
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  7. Vol Horn 4 Life

    Vol Horn 4 Life Good Bye To All The Rest!

    I did a little bit of digging and downloaded the Aggy Election Regulations Guide. As I read through it there are multiple sorts of offenses listed up to deliberately manipulating the outcome of an election and there is no penalty anywhere or even a clause giving them an option to boot the winner from the race for any violation.

    I think ole slick Rick may be onto something here. Not only that, I'm going to bet we see a lawsuit over in collie station in the next year. According to their own written rules document posted on their university website no one is to replace the winner for any violation.

    Any of you law gurus want to look this over?


    IV. Violations

    A. Reporting

    1. A student who wishes to report an alleged violation of the Election Regulations


    may do so by filing a written account or online report of the alleged violation with

    the Election Commission within seventy-two (72) hours of the alleged violation.


    B. Election Board

    1. The Commissioner will appoint a five (5) member Board to supervise and


    approve sanctions on Tier 2 and 3 violations (below).

    i. Makeup of the Board

    1. The Commissioner chairs the board, and is a non-voting member. The


    Commissioner will appoint five members from the current makeup of the

    Commission’s officers.

    ii. Operations of the Board


    1. In Tiers 2 and 3, the Election Board would have to review sanctions and actions


    by the Commissioner, before Commissioner-chosen sanctions are carried out.

    This review is non-binding.


    2. The Board will cast non-binding votes, on the record, with regard to the decisions


    of the Commissioner after proper investigation if the Board agrees with the

    decision of the Commissioner. An “approval” by the board constitutes a majority

    vote of the entire Board. This vote will be cast on the record within forty-eight

    (48) hours of the Commissioner’s decision.


    3. Members of The Board may submit non-binding dissenting opinions with respect


    to any decision of the Commissioner, which could be forwarded to the Judicial

    Court, candidate, or other concerned parties.


    4. The Board will create a case file for each Tier 2 and 3 sanction, regardless of


    votes, that will contain at least:

    a. A document citing all evidence gathered in the case, including a brief


    summary of charges, evidence, and possible sanctions.

    b. Applicable (if available) emails or other correspondence relating to the case

    c. The final voting document, certified by the Commissioner.


    5. The Board will submit documents citing explanations for sanctions to applicable


    parties in the event a sanction or decision is appealed to the Judicial Court.

    6. All case documents must be kept for a period no less than one calendar year.


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    C. Tiered Violations

    1. Violations of these Regulations will be divided into three tiers according to


    severity, intent and impact on the campaigning process. These tiers should act as a

    guideline for candidates and the Commissioner, and decisions of the

    Commissioner may bridge these tiers if found necessary. The amount a certain

    tier suggests for a violation is only a guideline, and final sanction amounts and

    degrees are at the discretion of the Commissioner. The tiers will be as follows

    a. Tier 1


    i. Minor offenses. Normally infractions resulting in a fine between $.25 and

    $2.00. Examples of such infractions include minor pre-campaigning,

    minor electronic violations, minor financing violations, etc.

    b. Tier 2


    i. Moderate offenses. Normally resulting in a fine between $5.00 and

    $25.00. Examples of such infractions include late finance reports,

    unintentional campaign sabotage (such as a candidate’s supporter tearing

    down an opponent’s signs unbeknownst to the candidate), moderate precampaigning,


    moderate electronic violations, etc.

    c. Tier 3


    i. Serious offenses. Normally resulting in a fine between $25 and the

    maximum finable amount per offense, or disqualification. Examples of

    such infractions include falsified documents, intentional campaign

    sabotage, voting fraud or coercion, serious ethics and/or Honor Code

    violations, etc. Repeated Tier 2 violations may also be classified as Tier 3.


    D. Fines

    1. Any individual fine may not exceed 15% of the candidate’s total budget per

    occurrence, unless specified otherwise by the Regulations. In run-off, only the

    candidate’s general campaign budget amount will be used to set this fine limit.

    2. All candidates must pay fines within ten (10) days of the final day of voting.


    Should a candidate fail to pay fines, his/her name will be forwarded to the

    registrar’s office and subsequently blocked from class registration until the fines

    are paid. Any elected candidate who fails to pay his/her fines within ten (10) class

    days of the time he/she is elected will be removed from office.

    3. Budgetary Fines do not have to be paid to the Commission. These fines will be


    clearly marked as such, and all fines not receiving this delineation must be paid to

    the commission.
     
  8. Phil Elliott

    Phil Elliott 2,500+ Posts

    The more aggy pretends to be different, the more they are just like every other college in America.
     
  9. Horn6721

    Horn6721 10,000+ Posts

    PE
    Yes it is when they are NOT pretending that their aggy difference always shows up.
     
  10. LonghornMD

    LonghornMD 100+ Posts

    Chances are a few of his fellow aggies have seen it :fiestanana:
     
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  11. BrntOrngStmpeDe

    BrntOrngStmpeDe 1,000+ Posts

    I don't know...I like the fact that he's calling it out. I don't like him much and for me, he lost all dignity when he did the dancing BS, but I like this.
     
  12. WorsterMan

    WorsterMan SEC here we come!!

    First thing we do is kill all the lawyers!
     

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