Obama -- bad president, good role model

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  1. NJlonghorn

    NJlonghorn 2,500+ Posts

    I thought this was an interesting read. Link. I wish more people (from both sides of the aisle) could find it in themselves to be this reasonable.
     
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  2. Musburger1

    Musburger1 2,500+ Posts

    Bill Cosby is a great role model too, as long as the only exposure you have to him is the TV show.
     
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  3. ProdigalHorn

    ProdigalHorn 10,000+ Posts

    I think the point isn't whether it's genuine or not - none of us know that for sure - but rather that the image is a good one that we should have from the oval office in terms of how the president should treat his family. It's certainly not something that outweighs the issues I think he's caused, but on this front there's no reason not to commend him.
     
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  4. Musburger1

    Musburger1 2,500+ Posts

    George Bush had the same image as a non-philandering family man. So did Nixon as far as I know. That's nice. Did anyone make a big deal of what great role models they were?
     
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  5. UTChE96

    UTChE96 2,500+ Posts

    I completely agree with that article. Obama by all accounts appears to be a great father. I wish that he would have been more vocal about the importance of families especially in the black community where single parent families has become the norm. Obama also gained some respect in my book when he stood up for the disruptive Trump supporter at his rally. I think he is overall a very good role model and a decent person. That said, he has been a complete disaster of a President in terms of foreign policy, doubling the debt, significantly increased government regulations and bureaucracy, and worst of all left us with a far more divided country than he inherited.
     
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  6. ProdigalHorn

    ProdigalHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Nixon wasn't living in a time when the American family was crumbling. And to be fair, I actually had heard even some liberals talk about Bush as a dad, and that it was good to see the relationship he had with his kids. I remember seeing a clip from Ellen (yep... that happened) where she had one of the Bush daughters on, and she asked about their relationship and basically said she could pick up the phone any time and he'd pick up. Sure enough, she called him live on the show, and got him on the phone. (Could that have been staged? Maybe, but again, it was still a good example of being a dad.)

    Oh wait.. I can post it:

     
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  7. I35

    I35 5,000+ Posts

    He does seem like a great family man. That's a great thing for his family. Too bad that's as far as we can go for the most divisive President in history.
     
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  8. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  9. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    lol - some people always insist on learning things the hard way


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  10. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Since Obama is getting $400K per speech from Wall Street while Hillary only got half that figure out of Goldman Sachs, can she sue for sex discrimination under the Equal Pay Act?
    Race discrimination too?
     
  11. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    HRC was never POTUS. This line of attack (like the golfing criticism) is so short sighted. Fast forward 4-8 years from now. How much do you think Trump will be commanding for a speech? Do you think he'll walk away from $600k or $1M for a 45 minute speech to Wall Street?
     
  12. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    "I mean, I do think at a certain point you’ve made enough money."
    --Barack Obama, 2010


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  13. horninchicago

    horninchicago 10,000+ Posts

    Notice he didn't say, "I mean, I do think at a certain point I've made enough money." So, he covered his tracks there.
     
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  14. I35

    I35 5,000+ Posts

    Short sighted would be if Obama never bashed Wall Street. He did it often throughout his presidency. Somehow you always seem to miss the point.
     
  15. Phil Elliott

    Phil Elliott 2,500+ Posts

    I really don't give a rat's *** what kind of "role model" he is. He drove this country to the brink of ruin, on purpose, and very nearly got HRC elected to finish the job. He hates this country as founded, that ain't no kinda role model for my kids, thank you very much.
     
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  16. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

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  17. Duck Dodgers

    Duck Dodgers 1,000+ Posts

    Translation - he'd have done more if he wasn't such a weakling and coward. Got it!
     
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  18. RainH2burntO

    RainH2burntO 2,500+ Posts

    Translation: He sees some of the stuff others are getting away with now and wishes he'd pushed waaay more radically
     
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  19. Duck Dodgers

    Duck Dodgers 1,000+ Posts

    He did soil himself in terms of potential accomplishments. He spent all his capital getting Obamacare passed, which then resulted in an electoral wipe out that set the Democrat party back 10 years.

    After the traitor Arlene Specter ran off to the other side, they had the White House, House, and Senate with 60 (!) votes. And all they did was Obamacare, which has been an albatross around their neck since then.

    After that, he installed a couple of spinsters to the Supreme Court as replacements for other leftists, and surrendered to the Iranians in 2015. Not a pile of accomplishments.
     
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