What if it was not the Russians?

Discussion in 'West Mall' started by Horn6721, Dec 13, 2016.

  1. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    The we said "Climate Change ...."


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  2. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Hillary in 2012
    Russia is an ally
    Russia has been very helpful
    Referring to Romney's take on Russia, she says, ".... it's dated to be looking backwards."

     
  3. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Bill Clinton in 2013
    Says he has a "good" relationship with the "very smart" Vladimir Putin


     
  4. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    This is so great
    I cannot imagine a better face of the Dem Party
    Here, Maxine says she sees evidence the Russians colluded with Trump from the "Putin-invented" phrases "lock her up" and "crooked Hillary"

     
  5. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 2,500+ Posts

    She reminds me of SH, OU Bubba and the MSM. They conjure up some of the most ridiculous, unfounded, crazy crap and argue as if it is actually real. Our society has been dumbed down so much that people will believe damn near anything, and then repeat it.
     
  6. Brad Austin

    Brad Austin 2,500+ Posts

    It's asinine the solutions to drastically improve public representation in Washington are so obvious and overwhelmingly desired by the public.

    Majorly restrictive campaign finance reform and term limits would do wonders cleaning up the corruption in Congress.

    Campaign finance reform:

    1) Limit donations to individuals with reasonable ceiling on annual campaign donations
    2) Eliminate PAC and special interest donations like these
    3) Require any political ad run during an election cycle be produced and funded by the campaign, and include a declared candidate approval.

    Who wouldn't favor those rules except those buying elections and candidates?

    Term limits:

    3 term House, 2 term Senate. No crossing over when termed out. Whatever the term limits, it'd dampen the political class by restricting the means of career politicians.
     
  7. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    I agree. The problem is the current party in charge doesn't want that. The democrats don't either but there was some efforts by the Dems to get some controls in place on financing. Citizens united trumped that.
     
  8. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 2,500+ Posts

    Those damn laws!

    I believe Hillary received the most money during the campaign, but she still lost.

    I believe only those that pay federal income taxes should vote. Like the parishioner cautioned the Priest after his sermon against birth control, "you no playa da game, you no make-a da rules".
     
  9. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

     
  10. nashhorn

    nashhorn 5,000+ Posts

    Hmm, wouldn't let me add notes but to the quoted above,,,,,,,amen and amen. I am also solidly behind term limits. It is absurd to think someone should stay in forever. They often are bought in just a first term. Disgusting.
     
  11. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Don't recall - but has anyone posted that Kim Dotcom is claiming he helped Seth Rich (murdered DNC staffer) leak to WikiLeaks. Supposedly announcement on Tuesday (NZ time).
     
  12. Phil Elliott

    Phil Elliott 2,500+ Posts

    FIFY.
     
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  13. Musburger1

    Musburger1 2,500+ Posts

    Not only that, the powerful corporate interests don't want term limits. If you own a Congressman, you want to keep him where he is. Otherwise you have to invest large sums of money every few years to purchase a new Congressman.
     
  14. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    You'd better run for the hills, Brad, because I'd agree with all of these. The Citizens United decision needs to be corrected with legislation. "Dark money" is disastrous for a Representative Democracy.
     
  15. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Uh oh, Guccifer 2.0 was busy this election season. According to the Wall Street Journal this Russian hacker sent other Democratic Voter turnout analysis to a GOP Operative then pointed Stone to this operative's blog.

     
  16. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  17. Musburger1

    Musburger1 2,500+ Posts

    :yippee: You're killing me. :yippee:
     
  18. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts


    I do not understand how Zucker is able to keep his job?
     
  19. Musburger1

    Musburger1 2,500+ Posts

  20. UTChE96

    UTChE96 2,500+ Posts

    The MSM better hope they come up with something linking Trump to Russia. As it stands right now, they are holding a big steaming pile of nothing. They will be hearing the term Fake News for the next 3 years if this holds.
     
  21. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

  22. Musburger1

    Musburger1 2,500+ Posts

    Just about everything being played out is being done using fake news as a platform. CNN and the Washington Post plant phony stories against Trump. Trump is likewise used by the neocons to spread fraudulent allegations to justify imperialist actions in Syria. The entire US government and media establishments are engulfed in systemic corruption. There's nowhere to turn to. Choose your evil.
     
  23. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts


     
  24. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    This is the first time in a long time anyone at CNN has been caught telling the truth about something


     
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  25. Joe Fan

    Joe Fan 10,000+ Posts

    Apparently there are more CNN undercover tapes yet to fall


    :popcorn:
     
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  26. Brad Austin

    Brad Austin 2,500+ Posts

    DT has exposed and hammered on more corruption than any candidate ever could.

    The opposition (left and right) hates his brashness and machismo so much they can't control themselves trying to end him. Intense provocation causes extreme sloppiness.

    - Definitively exposing and ruining credibility of the colluding, propaganda MSM

    - Prevented activist judges from legislating from the bench (Gorsuch)

    - Still exposing the Obama admin collusion with the HRC campaign (unmasking and AG protection) to shield HRC from prosecution and attempt to steal the election.

    - Still exposing the deep state as Comey uniquely kept notes in an attempt to gather evidence. And Mueller stacks his legal deck with conflicts galore.

    - The ultimate exposure of the left's intolerance of free speech, wide acceptance of violence as a means of resistance, and joining forces with a diametrically opposed culture while jeopardizing security of our citizens.

    - Fully exposing Hollywood and academia as worthless commie rats nests

    So he has a big mouth and brags a lot. His unique results qualify as an American hero.

    Everything I mentioned above would have been wiped out and made exponentially worse if DT didn't defeat the entire establishment and MSM to save us from HRC.
     
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  27. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    Straight out of the McCarthy era, sans the Russia lovefest.
     
  28. Brad Austin

    Brad Austin 2,500+ Posts

    Keep up the good fight and as the regular viewer we know you are...stay loyal to CNN.

    They purposely served months of sh*t sandwiches knowing your side won't rationally question it. And you all ate up every stinky bite like good cult followers. :popcorn:
     
  29. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    I've watched about 1 minute of news in the last two weeks. I'm reading on the twitter reading about the Russian stories. Have you noticed the migration over the last week or two from "it didn't happen" to "if it happened, Trump didn't know about it" and "is that collusion illegal" to, my personal favorite "Obama allowed it to happen".
     
  30. Brad Austin

    Brad Austin 2,500+ Posts

    I've noticed that same trick ever since the first Rep debate. Stir up controversy with wild, vague statements.

    Suck the oxygen of new towards him and then twist it all around and walk it back slowly.

    It's a pretty funny little game the media falls for every time. And just when they think they caught him tripping over his own words, poof, gone.

    Your side needs to realize what it actually takes to impeach and remove a U.S. president. Something never done before.

    In our history only 2 of 45 have been impeached...both acquitted.

    Nixon was dead to rights (massively unlike DT) and he resigned before being impeached. Which is clearly why you all scream Watergate comparisons because it's the only time it may have succeeded.

    Impeachment and conviction is a monumental thing (esp in a Rep controlled Congress). Speculation, he said/she said, or even appearances of guilt will never make a dent.

    You all will need a smoking cannon and you can't even find a proven leaky water pistol.
     

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