Comey Testimony

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  1. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Phone calls don't count? I read something like 9 calls.
     
  2. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    No, Flynn was being investigated after he had been let go when the conversation took place. Does not rise to legal obstruction.
     
  3. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Trump speaking about Flynn, not the Russian collusion counter intelligence investigation. Wrong again, Sooner boy!
     
  4. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    They're all part and parcel. It's like me trying to argue that I'm a Texan when I live in Wichita Falls, am an OU graduate and have season tickets. That's an "okie" fact set.
     
  5. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    Comey's Pre-testimony indicates no phone calls and only those two conversations. Chain of command.
     
  6. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

  7. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    You wishing it so doesn't make it so. Comey is not claiming what you said.
     
  8. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    There are sources other than his written testimony. I didn't see where you noted that you were specifically referring to his pre-testimony.
     
  9. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    Dude? http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/07/politics/james-comey-memos-testimony/

     
  10. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    It's not a joke. Seriously, pathos...logos.



    The polls showed a very close race in the end. Comey's letter created a significant swing in the polls. Trump won by a 70k vote difference among 3 critical states. That's a razor thin margin but he leveraged it to win going away in the electoral college. For the midterms and reelection he'll have a record of achievement (or not) to run on and a history of idiotic statements.
     
  11. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Wow...Comey is coming out guns blazing at Trump and defending the FBI in his opening oral statement.
     
  12. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

  13. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    And it went downhill from there. Do we have Senate testimony every time someone gets fired in DC? Drama queen.
     
  14. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Comey testifies Obama's AG interfered with Hillary's investigation.
     
  15. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Marco Rubio made some good points. The rest of your post is weak sauce. Comey was the FBI Director. Per our POTUS he was fired over the Russia investigation in which Trump's campaign is near the center if not at the center. This isn't important? You're lying to yourself if you believe that.
     
  16. Crockett

    Crockett 5,000+ Posts

  17. texas_ex2000

    texas_ex2000 2,500+ Posts

    Did Comey say that after her Tarmac rendevous Lynch DIRECTED him to call Hillary's email investigation a "matter?"

    WTF?
     
  18. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Yep, that's what I heard too. It wasn't reported in the media as a "matter".
     
  19. Htown77

    Htown77 5,000+ Posts

    Wait, so Comey admits to leaking things?

    He is not coming off as a snowden whether you think snowden is a hero or a traitor. He is coming off to me as a shady character that should never have been in charge of the FBI regardless of whether the president was Obama, Trump or anyone else.

    I am just reading snippets, but it sounds to me like his focus has been being involved in all the political BS of both parties and not so much law and order or the good of the country. Thoughts from anyone watching?
     
  20. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 2,500+ Posts

    What we learned in the morning session:
    -McCain is almost senile. An American hero, but time to go.
    -Comey doesn't trust Trump. Of course, Trump fired him and called him a nut job.
    -Trump was never under investigation, and Comey told Trump so three different times.
    -Trump told Comey he "hoped" that Comey would "let the Flynn investigation go", which Comey took, presumably, as directing him to stop investigating Flynn. This despite the fact that Trump has the ability to start or stop any FBI investigation upon his order. Comey subsequently did nothing more than make meeting notes. Comey talked by phone to Trump about the matter one time after the initial private meeting between the two, and afterward no one from the administration ever followed-up on the Flynn matter with Comey. Comey stated he had never heard of anyone being charged with a crime for "hoping something" would happen. Comey would have reported Trump if he felt Trump was engaged in obstruction of justice, but he made no such report. Comey said he would be honest with Trump, and Trump said that's all he wants, "honest loyalty".
    -The New York Times lies per Comey. Fake news. In fact, their Feb. 14th article stating Trump Campaign members had repeated contacts with Russian Intelligence officials was "entirely wrong".
    -There have been "many, many stories" about the Russia investigation produced by the media that are "dead wrong". Fake news.
    -Comey personally told Trump that the "dossier" on Trump funded by Democrats was being distributed the following day, and was false information (sorry OUBubba, no peeing pictures for you and your Okie family to oogle).
    -The leakers have no idea what was said in most meetings, so they are a great source for fake news produced by the liberal MSM.
    -Trump told Comey to keep investigating the Russians and would like to know if any of his "satellite people" were involved with Russia during the election.
    -After receiving classified briefings, Dianne Feinstein stated twice (in May 2016) that there was no collusion between the Trump Campaign and Russia.
    -Per Comey, "nothing has impeded" the FBI in the Russian investigation.
    -Comey felt like the DOJ and Hillary Clinton had a conflict of interest during the election.
    -Comey stated that Trump firing him makes no sense if Trump wanted to somehow stop the Flynn investigation.
    -Flynn is being investigated for making false statements to the FBI.
     
    Last edited: Jun 8, 2017
  21. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Yes, he did say he deliberately had a friend share the content of the memos (an d the memos themselves?) to the NYT to spur pressure for a Special Counsel. Rightly or wrongly, he's pretty politically savvy. Are the memos themselves confidential?

    The Loretta Lynch bomb was also big but won't get a lot of play.

    Comey was concerned that Trump would lie (thus the memos) and directly said he's a liar and defamed him and the FBI

    Overall, I thought the Senators appropriately in their questioning directly in contrast to the Trey Gowdy and Elijah Cummings styles.
     
  22. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Here is the transcript about Comey leaking the memos:

    • COLLINS: Did you show copies of your memos to anyone outside of the department of justice?
    • COMEY: Yes.
    • COLLINS: And to whom did you show copies?
    • COMEY: The president tweeted on Friday, after I got fired, that I better hope there's not tapes. I woke up in the middle of the night on Monday night, because it didn't dawn on me originally, that there might be corroboration for our conversation, there might be a tape. And my judgment was I needed to get that out into the public square. So I asked a friend of mine to share the content of the memo with a reporter. I didn't do it myself for a variety of reasons, but I asked him to because i thought that might prompt the appointment of a special counsel, so I asked a close friend of mine to do it.
     
  23. mchammer

    mchammer 10,000+ Posts

    Given how bad Comey is at his job, he deserved being fired.
     
  24. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    I think he's got more integrity than most. I have faith in Mueller and Rosenstien. I have no faith in Sessions.

    It's funny how I thought Comey decimated Trump's integrity. Say what you will but Trump's integrity is down there with the Lane Kinnin's of the world.
     
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  25. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    I can think of a more important position in which someone is repeatedly demonstrating how poor they are at their job that deserve be fired. Comey's job performance was much better than many in politically appointed/elected positions now and in previous administrations.
     
  26. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Trump may not have been part of the Russia meddling investigation but appears to be part of the investigation now. During Watergate Nixon wasn't in trouble until the cover-up ensued.

     
  27. Garmel

    Garmel 5,000+ Posts

    Yeah, good luck with that.
     
  28. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Fortunately, it's not my job to worry about. We have a special counsel with impeccable credentials to investigate it. I'll trust Mueller's work outcome.
     
  29. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    Nixon wasn't really in trouble even with the obstruction until the continued cloud became untenable to the Republicans. We're at a place now where they're trying to shove all of the horrible legislation through while they have a chance. Trump is like the Bandit, Ryan is the Snowman and McConnell is Fred with the Coors loaded up in the back of the truck. I guess Comey is Sheriff Branford - you seemed much taller on the telephone...
     
  30. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Previously I complimented the Senators' behavior in today's hearing. I should have stopped short of complimenting John McCain. I'm a big fan of his but today wasn't a good day for him. He's getting lambasted in multiple forums but twitter, as usual, is having a hey day at McCain's expense.

     

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