Huskers fire AD

Discussion in 'On The Field' started by El Sapo, Sep 21, 2017.

  1. El Sapo

    El Sapo Bevo's BFF

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  2. X Misn Tx

    X Misn Tx 2,500+ Posts

    I blame the Longhorn Network!
     
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  3. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    As Deloss once told me, Nebraska grossly overestimates their value. There are more TVs in the Houston SMSA than the entire state of Nebraska. Add in that over 50,000 of those TV owners are at the games in Lincoln, and it diminishes even further.

    They perceived their two rivals to be OU & Colorado, who have been replaced by Iowa, Minnesota, et al. No glamour there.

    They ran from the Big XII because Texas & Missouri demanded that they enhance academic standards or leave. No more driving through campus and having a degree thrown in the front seat, or picking up your degree from your steroid dealer.

    That move killed their recruiting in Texas, and greatly reduced it in California, although I think Osborne maintained some of his connections with some of the better bail bondsmen in Downey, Compton, & Watts.

    The administration in Lincoln needs to do a careful analysis of what made Nebraska football win:

    1) Steroids
    2) Community scholarships, which allowed them to have 200+ players on scholarship
    3) Steroids
    4) OU and their Thanksgiving weekend game
    5) Steroids
    6) having over 200+ players on scholarship thanks to the community scholarships
    7) Buying out of state players, although I thought the red TransAm parked out front of the Bombay Bicycle Club was not fitting for Charles' style.

    Appears to me the administration is pointing the finger and placing blame in the wrong direction. Not sure whom, if anyone will want that job.

    Best fans I've been around, but they deserve better than they have been dealt, and that includes Tom Osborne.
     
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  4. militaryhorn

    militaryhorn Prediction Contest Manager

    You forgot steroids
     
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  5. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    Community Scholarships are a myth but the walk-on program was a key ingredient to Nebraska's success. I blame Snyder at KSU for building a program on kids that would have previously been walk-ons at NU. Successful lower division schools like NDSU put the nail in that asset.

    Eichorst was a native son. He did a lot for fundraising for the program but in the end new arenas don't fill themselves. In this case, the biggest asset NU has is their fans which have sold out every game since '62 or '65. The are scared to lose that. The loss last week to NIU left a bitter taste in all Husker fans mouths. They'll accept losing to the big dogs but lose to a directional school and you're done.
     
  6. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 10,000+ Posts

    From personal experience, they were not a myth in the 60's and early 70's.The people my wife worked for while we were in college were from Nebraska, and they could name several just from their town who "walked on" because they had received a "Community".
     
  7. Dionysus

    Dionysus Idoit Admin

    @SabreHorn are you suggesting there might have been steroid use?
     
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  8. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Viper,

    Repeat after me "D E A N S T E I N K H U L E R"

    I remember in the early 80s asking a friend on OU's staff to arrange a meeting with the NU OL coach to discuss why they wanted a kid, whom I had known since he was in elementary school. We didn't want him even as a walkon. We met at Otto's on Memorial, where he explained to me the Nebraska program and the walkon and scholarship program. He, then, went on tell me about Steinkhuler and h.ow he went from a 220 lb RB doing a 5.4 forty to a consensus All American
     
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  9. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Dion,

    Perhaps that's why so many of my of my Baptist brethren are thankful for Nebraska, because they are all that kept Baylor from having the worst steroid problem in D-1
     
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  10. ProdigalHorn

    ProdigalHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Trying to remember if Mandarich was from Nebraska? I remember him shriveling up like a prune once he got to the NFL and started getting tested regularly.
     
  11. ProdigalHorn

    ProdigalHorn 10,000+ Posts

    College football is a weird echo chamber type of sport. People around you are rabid for your school, and you play an entertaining brand of football, and you win, so you just naturally assume that you're a great TV draw. And to the hardcore college fan, you are. But there aren't nearly as many hardcore fans as we think they are here in college football heaven. Basically, if you're Nebraska, you're not getting eyeballs on TV sets just because you're playing. You get them when you're in marquee matchups with other big brand programs, or more often, when you're in relevant games with programs or within conferences perceived to be relevant.

    Nebraska needs a Sherlock Holmes to its Moriarty. A Batman to its Joker. Otherwise it's just another program up north that I hear might be pretty good this year, and I'll check the standings to see how they're doing sometimes.
     
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  12. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Prodigal,

    The TV people should have paid you $10 million to negotiate that old BigTen contract, which Delany used to take their virginity. Delany based that contract on television sets in the area rather than viewers. That's why he scrambled to grab Rutgers and Maryland, not that either was desirable, but rather because he got credit for all the TVs in NYC, Baltimore, and DC. TV executives have never figured out that a small percentage of those TV sets tune in to college football in SoCal & NYC.
     
  13. utempire

    utempire 1,000+ Posts

    In addition it was pretty easy going in the Big 8. nu just had to beat ou and that was it.
     
  14. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    OU was to Nebraska as Texas was to A&M, hated by an envious wannabe, but a nuisance rather than rival.
     
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  15. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    My Freshman coach in NE was a former walk-on TE at NU in the early-80's. He was a smart dude and earned some academic scholarships. The guy was offered a chance to get into a game but was told that to do so he'd have to give up his academic scholarships. Because all scholarships count against the NCAA minimums, regardless of origin (athletic or academic). He chose to quit and become a tutor for the program instead knowing he'd never be able to get on the field.

    Here is an article with citations on the county scholarship myth: http://web.archive.org/web/20080118073714/http://nebraska.scout.com/2/47613.html
     
  16. SabreHorn

    SabreHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Seattle.

    You are correct about the scholarship count. The guys on those community rides were five year projects. As the old OL coach explained to me, "We got him for 5 years, hoping to get service the last two". It gave NU practice fodder in hopes they panned out. A few did, most did not. Those that did, were promoted to athletic scholarships.
    The others were cheap blocking dummies, but they were part of the program and eventually lettered.
     
  17. Statalyzer

    Statalyzer 10,000+ Posts

    Don't forget partial qualifiers back in the Big 8 days.
     
  18. uisge beatha

    uisge beatha 1,000+ Posts

    Mich St. As a Packers fan, that one still hurts. Passing on Barry Sanders, Derrick Thomas, and Deion Sanders to select him.
     
  19. utempire

    utempire 1,000+ Posts

    It's pretty simple, the big 8 was a cake walk. All nu had to do was beat ou and they were in the top of the rankings. The big 12 and big 10 were too much for them. Now they have no rivals, no recruiting base, just delusional and overrated fans.
     
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  20. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Delusional - yes; overrated - no. We were treated well in Lincoln; unlike every other conference location.
     
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  21. utempire

    utempire 1,000+ Posts

    From my experiences here in Austin at games, the big 12 title game, and some of them that live here, I say overrated.
     
  22. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    PQ's were certainly a benefit for NU, although the data showed they graduated and performed academically than those thrown into the JUCO system.
     
  23. Sangre Naranjada

    Sangre Naranjada 10,000+ Posts

    I never felt poorly treated in Boulder, Stillwater, or Lawrence.
     
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  24. ViperHorn

    ViperHorn 10,000+ Posts

    Batteries were/are the weapon of choice in Boulder, and Stillwater is Fayettnam lite. I will give you Lawrence since the stands are empty enough to keep a good distance from all of the basketball talk.
     
  25. LonghornDave

    LonghornDave 1,000+ Posts

    and Manhattan.
    As an aside I was treated very well last weekend by the USC fans.
     
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  26. X Misn Tx

    X Misn Tx 2,500+ Posts

    i've heard that from multiple people.
     
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  27. uisge beatha

    uisge beatha 1,000+ Posts

    In the year I was out there, I can't recall one Californian being rude (that includes dealing w/ the DMV:)). Most were friendly and accommodating.
     
  28. Vol Horn 4 Life

    Vol Horn 4 Life Good Bye To All The Rest!

    Add me to that list. USC fans in whole welcomed us to the area.
     
  29. LonghornDave

    LonghornDave 1,000+ Posts

    And USC fans get football....which is nice.
     

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