Who’s Lying?

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  1. Musburger1

    Musburger1 2,500+ Posts

    The press is reporting “Senior aides and staffers” anonymously report that chief of staff General Kelly pressured them to lie with respect to the Porter situation. Reflecting on this allegation, two possibilities come to mind.

    1. Intimidation is common practice in the higher echelons of the government and military. The allegations are true as absolute power corrupts absolutely.

    2. The intelligence agencies use their influence with the media to construct the desired narrative using “multiple anonymous sources.” The media dutifully regurgitates the narrative without having to disclose who or if the sources actually exist. The story is then accepted as fact.

    Both possibilities are disturbing. In this specific instance I suppose the first case is probably closer to the truth. But I can’t dismiss the second possibility because it happens over and over. Either way, we are left with corruption and dysfunction.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-14/senior-white-house-aides-say-kelly-pressured-them-lie-him
     
  2. iatrogenic

    iatrogenic 2,500+ Posts

    I'm very disturbed. This has a huge effect on our everyday lives and should be reported on and questioned endlessly. By God, we will get to the bottom of this and solve all of our problems one way or another!
     
  3. Clean

    Clean 5,000+ Posts

    This Porter thing is ridiculous. Domestic abuse is bad, but it isn't the duty of his employer to ferret it out and fire him for it. That's Big Brother stuff. Now somehow the whole administration knew about it, condoned, and concealed it. Sheesh. The MSM will stoop to any level.
     
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  4. Musburger1

    Musburger1 2,500+ Posts

    Sarcasm noted. But that doesn’t change the reality that rot has become systemic and checks and balances have all but vanished.
     
  5. OUBubba

    OUBubba 5,000+ Posts

    I agree with you if this was a regular old employee of the government. This guy was working in a job that demands a security clearance and demands that he actually work in a SCIF. So, that's not a regular employee. The rumors are that Corey Lewendowski (Hope Hicks former man) is the one that ratted him out. This is like a season arc of The Apprentice. Omorossa lasted longer than I thought she would. Scaramuchi played too hard, too fast.... etc.
     
  6. Seattle Husker

    Seattle Husker 10,000+ Posts

    This simply highlights the security clearance review process. If the FBI was done last July, why did it take the "White house Personnel Security" team so long to officially close the book on Porter? New "Interim Security Clearances" as a practice were officially halted by the WH in November.

    This doesn't appear to be an FBI problem but rather within the WH, career bureaucrats if you believe Sanders.

    For those don't think there was a problem in this process, the 3rd WH staffer has resigned within the last week due to security clearance problems. Does all this occur if the security clearance process wasn't thrust into the spotlight?
     
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  7. Musburger1

    Musburger1 2,500+ Posts

    The question I posed doesn’t address whether the security screening process failed because of incompetence or willfulness. Doesn’t matter with respect to this post. The question I’m asking is whether Kelley used his power to pressure subordinates to lie in order to cover for him or is the story a fabrication by the media resulting from pressure/lies placed on them by the intel agencies,”.
     
  8. UTChE96

    UTChE96 2,500+ Posts

    Trust no one.
     
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